[google-appengine] Re: Typical monthly costs for running an app

2010-06-28 Thread Bumble
Try this...Track estimated cost for your AppEngine site with Firefox add-on http://radomirml.com/2010/04/06/track-appengine-estimated-cost-with-firefox-add-on On Jun 25, 5:17 pm, Harshal wrote: > Could you share how much CPU do you use per day? in hours? about to enable > billing for app, your an

[google-appengine] Re: Typical monthly costs for running an app

2010-06-28 Thread Bumble
Try this...Track estimated cost for your AppEngine site with this Firefox add-on http://radomirml.com/2010/04/06/track-appengine-estimated-cost-with-firefox-add-on On Jun 25, 5:17 pm, Harshal wrote: > Could you share how much CPU do you use per day? in hours? about to enable > billing for app, y

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Typical monthly costs for running an app

2010-06-25 Thread Harshal
Could you share how much CPU do you use per day? in hours? about to enable billing for app, your answer could help determine the daily limit for me. On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 12:09 PM, nischalshetty wrote: > My google appengine app gets around 7k uniques per day. My app uses a > lot of CPU time a

[google-appengine] Re: Typical monthly costs for running an app

2010-06-24 Thread nischalshetty
My google appengine app gets around 7k uniques per day. My app uses a lot of CPU time and at the current traffic I'm spending around $2.5 per day. It all depends on how you use, the kind of operations you would do. You can say its a combination of the number of users and the resource each user wou

[google-appengine] Re: Typical monthly costs for running an app

2010-06-24 Thread Michael
Polling is 10% of all CPU time, according to dashboard. Around 20% of CPU time takes getting profiles (even though i use memcache). Beaconpush looks nice, i will look into it. On Jun 24, 3:37 pm, "Nick Johnson (Google)" wrote: > Hi Michael, > > It sounds like polling is costing you a lot. The up

[google-appengine] Re: Typical monthly costs for running an app

2010-06-24 Thread dflorey
@Martin: It takes a lot of CPU to do some MapReduce-style batch update to entities (like "UPDATE kind SET propery_x = value" in sql type of stuff or delete all entities of a given kind) So I just wanted to say that some apps are quite expensive on app engine, no matter how many users you have. I so

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Typical monthly costs for running an app

2010-06-24 Thread Nick Johnson (Google)
Hi Michael, It sounds like polling is costing you a lot. The upcoming push API should help with that a lot; in the meantime, have you considered a service such as Beacon (http://beaconpush.com/)? -Nick On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 12:36 PM, Michael wrote: > I have around 60-70 req/sec at peak times

[google-appengine] Re: Typical monthly costs for running an app

2010-06-24 Thread Michael
I have around 60-70 req/sec at peak times, 5 unique users/day. I have a lot of hits because users are polling for new messages (it's a dating app for social network). Costs me $9/day. I'm not happy with price, i think i'll be able to cut it at least 2-4 times, when running on the rented dedica

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Typical monthly costs for running an app

2010-06-24 Thread Martin Webb
App Engine Sent: Thu, 24 June, 2010 8:52:18 Subject: [google-appengine] Re: Typical monthly costs for running an app I am using app engine to execute a lot of background tasks to modify contact info etc. A single user can cause 2$ CPU cost per day easily. Just to give you an example that there is

[google-appengine] Re: Typical monthly costs for running an app

2010-06-24 Thread dflorey
I am using app engine to execute a lot of background tasks to modify contact info etc. A single user can cause 2$ CPU cost per day easily. Just to give you an example that there is no direct correlation between users / cost. For the apps that I've built so far the CPU cost + limited number of ind

Re: [google-appengine] Re: typical monthly costs for running an app

2010-06-23 Thread Harshal
Good question Ross. :) +1 On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Ross M Karchner wrote: > I would love to know how much traffic (or better, how many "topics" > and subscriptions) PubSubHubBub serves, and how much it costs (even if > nobody really pays for it). > > On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 11:09 AM, G

Re: [google-appengine] Re: typical monthly costs for running an app

2010-06-23 Thread Ross M Karchner
I would love to know how much traffic (or better, how many "topics" and subscriptions) PubSubHubBub serves, and how much it costs (even if nobody really pays for it). On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > > > On Jun 22, 9:49 pm, Tristan wrote: >> User sends a request for a pa

Re: [google-appengine] Re: typical monthly costs for running an app

2010-06-23 Thread Jaroslav Záruba
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > > > On Jun 22, 9:49 pm, Tristan wrote: > > User sends a request for a page.. cold start, need new instance ~ > > 10,000 ms = 10s. > > User stares at it for 2 seconds, clicks an interaction... we're > > unlucky, new instance ~10,000 ms = 10

[google-appengine] Re: typical monthly costs for running an app

2010-06-23 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Jun 22, 9:49 pm, Tristan wrote: > User sends a request for a page.. cold start, need new instance  ~ > 10,000 ms = 10s. > User stares at it for 2 seconds, clicks an interaction... we're > unlucky, new instance ~10,000 ms = 10s. > User executes a task that delegates something to the queue. Oh

Re: [google-appengine] Re: typical monthly costs for running an app

2010-06-22 Thread Tristan Slominski
What's the criteria for instance recycle? Isn't it 1 request per second? On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 22:57, Tim Hoffman wrote: > Hi > > Yes you could see all the restarts but only if you are getting only a > few users and visiting infrequently. > > The minute you start getting busy you are very unlik

[google-appengine] Re: typical monthly costs for running an app

2010-06-22 Thread Tim Hoffman
Hi Yes you could see all the restarts but only if you are getting only a few users and visiting infrequently. The minute you start getting busy you are very unlikely to be getting all the restarts T On Jun 23, 9:49 am, Tristan wrote: > I disagree with your assessment that 0.01 CPU is unrealist

Re: [google-appengine] Re: typical monthly costs for running an app

2010-06-22 Thread Martin Webb
this email are, unless otherwise stated, those of the author From: Tristan To: Google App Engine Sent: Wed, 23 June, 2010 1:37:28 Subject: [google-appengine] Re: typical monthly costs for running an app Yeah... looking at it again I can't even tel

[google-appengine] Re: typical monthly costs for running an app

2010-06-22 Thread Tristan
I disagree with your assessment that 0.01 CPU is unrealistic. Here's an example. User sends a request for a page.. cold start, need new instance ~ 10,000 ms = 10s. User stares at it for 2 seconds, clicks an interaction... we're unlucky, new instance ~10,000 ms = 10s. User executes a task that del

Re: [google-appengine] Re: typical monthly costs for running an app

2010-06-22 Thread Ikai L (Google)
The broken number in that thread is 0.01 CPU hours per user per day. You do realize that is 36 seconds of computation time per User, right? If we were to be aggressive and assume 3.6 seconds instead, it brings those off the cuff costs of 100,000 users (who are obviously very heavily engaged, as the

[google-appengine] Re: typical monthly costs for running an app

2010-06-22 Thread Tristan
Yeah... looking at it again I can't even tell you where I got the numbers, it looks like I just made them up... Here's the thread with the corrected numbers (why did this thread get hijacked?) http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/browse_thread/thread/82ac1d0574a43d3c/593b3dbace36e16a#5