[appengine-java] Re: Oracle sues Google on Java Patents and Copyright

2010-08-16 Thread asianCoolz
just ask Oracle to fire all their lawyers and hire 'better programmers' like google if they are serious about innovation. ask them make better web, no war. for them everything is just $$$, no wonder they have xtra to spend on lawsuit -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

Re: [appengine-java] Re: Oracle sues Google on Java Patents and Copyright

2010-08-16 Thread Khor Yong Hao
go away oracle, no politic, no politic, java must be free and open freely, use freely!!! On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 5:15 PM, asianCoolz second.co...@gmail.com wrote: just ask Oracle to fire all their lawyers and hire 'better programmers' like google if they are serious about innovation. ask

Re: [appengine-java] Re: Oracle sues Google on Java Patents and Copyright

2010-08-16 Thread Ikai L (Google)
Warning: I am not a lawyer. This lawsuit is about Android and Dalvik. Google App Engine should not be affected. Here's an interesting read I found about this subject: http://blog.headius.com/2010/08/my-thoughts-on-oracle-v-google.html On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Khor Yong Hao

[appengine-java] Re: Oracle sues Google on Java Patents and Copyright

2010-08-14 Thread François Masurel
Google could always grab an open source version of Java, name it Gava or whatever, and then rename the service gae/gava. If the Oracle patents are valid, they will have to pay Oracle royalties even if they use an Open Source version of Java like Apache Harmony unless this Java implementation

Re: [appengine-java] Re: Oracle sues Google on Java Patents and Copyright

2010-08-14 Thread Guillermo Schwarz
On Sat, 2010-08-14 at 05:54 -0700, François Masurel wrote: Google could always grab an open source version of Java, name it Gava or whatever, and then rename the service gae/gava. If the Oracle patents are valid, they will have to pay Oracle royalties even if they use an Open Source

[appengine-java] Re: Oracle sues Google on Java Patents and Copyright

2010-08-14 Thread François Masurel
Open Source doesn't protect at all against patents, that's why they have created the GPL v3 which include a patent grant license. Apache License might also include some kind of patent protection. Most open source licenses don't protect against patent lawsuits. I've found an interesting article

Re: [appengine-java] Re: Oracle sues Google on Java Patents and Copyright

2010-08-14 Thread Guillermo Schwarz
Any one can sue any one, for sure. Is the threat of a patent lawsuit enough to discourage individual developers to continue creating open source? Maybe. Is it profitable to sue individual open source developers? Of course not. They are not generating any revenue and therefore given that any

[appengine-java] Re: Oracle sues Google on Java Patents and Copyright

2010-08-14 Thread François Masurel
Another interesting article by Jamie McCracken : If you ask me, Oracle has scored a massive own goal by suing Google. Not least because if it expects to wrest back control of Java and make billions from it, it will surely be in for a massive disappointment. Here's why:

[appengine-java] Re: Oracle sues Google on Java Patents and Copyright

2010-08-14 Thread Robert Lancer
The 1998 suite was more about trademark, since MS created J++, using Sun's Java branding in their completely non Java programming language. On Aug 14, 12:15 pm, Guillermo Schwarz guillermo.schw...@gmail.com wrote: Reminds me of 1998, when Sun sued Microsoft over modifications on Java, which