Re: Approximate release time for GWT 2.0

2008-10-14 Thread Bruce Johnson
Hi everyone, Thanks both for the love and the frank constructive criticism. We can and should do a better job of communicating the roadmap and release timing to the broad GWT community. As Ian Petersen said, GWT contributors saw the 1.5 branch and (I think) had a pretty good sense for the progress

Re: Approximate release time for GWT 2.0

2008-10-09 Thread Ian Bambury
I'd have to disagree: I don't think Google is any worse than the average, but I don't think they are any better. I don't do anything very special or complicated with GWT so I wouldn't expect to come across a great percentage of the bugs and problems there are in there, but take the 1.5 *stable* re

Re: Approximate release time for GWT 2.0

2008-10-09 Thread Arthur Kalmenson
> It isn't easy to plan ahead if you have a fixed schedule for your project. > There's no point in developing against a release candidate for the next > version of GWT if you have to go live in May next year and you don't even > know if the next stable version is coming out in the first or second

Re: Approximate release time for GWT 2.0

2008-10-09 Thread walden
If I were Google, I would answer by pointing out that there has been a stable 1.4.62 release out there for quite some time, and advise to adjust your appetite for unreleased products in keeping with the risk your project can tolerate. Because the flip side of this is that there are many issues ha

Re: Approximate release time for GWT 2.0

2008-10-09 Thread alex.d
> Using a pre-RC 'in-development' patch-it-up version for production systems > isn't an option for some of the more conservative employers out there. It > makes them nervous. Amen to this bro... :-) But seriously - this discussion doesn't have any sense - google will not change it's politics. -

Re: Approximate release time for GWT 2.0

2008-10-08 Thread Ian Bambury
It isn't easy to plan ahead if you have a fixed schedule for your project. There's no point in developing against a release candidate for the next version of GWT if you have to go live in May next year and you don't even know if the next stable version is coming out in the first or second half of t

Re: Approximate release time for GWT 2.0

2008-10-08 Thread Ian Petersen
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 12:14 PM, Ian Bambury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Using a pre-RC 'in-development' patch-it-up version for production systems > isn't an option for some of the more conservative employers out there. It > makes them nervous. That's true. I guess I was just taking issue with

Re: Approximate release time for GWT 2.0

2008-10-08 Thread Ian Bambury
Hi Ian, Using a pre-RC 'in-development' patch-it-up version for production systems isn't an option for some of the more conservative employers out there. It makes them nervous. Even when a release candidate is approved and a version is released, it doesn't mean Google won't put undocumented break

Re: Approximate release time for GWT 2.0

2008-10-08 Thread walden
The oxytocin levels in the group have started to rise. This is a good thing... Walden On Oct 8, 5:35 am, Deba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I adore Julia for her love for GWT. And of course I love GWT... > > :) > > On Oct 8, 5:21 am, julia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > +1. > > I have been

Re: Approximate release time for GWT 2.0

2008-10-08 Thread Ian Petersen
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 9:40 AM, Ian Bambury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Previous experience would suggest that you won't even get 24 hours notice. > > The idea of allowing external developers to plan ahead is alien to Google. > They seem to work on IBM's FUD principle. > Ian > PS: I have a love/h

Re: Approximate release time for GWT 2.0

2008-10-08 Thread Ian Bambury
Previous experience would suggest that you won't even get 24 hours notice. The idea of allowing external developers to plan ahead is alien to Google. They seem to work on IBM's FUD principle. Ian PS: I have a love/hate relationship with GWT --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Y

Re: Approximate release time for GWT 2.0

2008-10-08 Thread Andrej Harsani
Hi, If all you need is "XLIFF", you are welcome to implement it into GWT. On Oct 7, 8:04 pm, jbdhl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can anyone give an estimate for when GWT 2.0 will be released? Will it > be within a year? Or two years? > > I ask because we have decided to move our fairly large appl

Re: Approximate release time for GWT 2.0

2008-10-08 Thread alex.d
Guys, as far as i know, google roadmap-agenda can be defined as: "it will be ready, when it's ready". Don't expect anyone to answer this question ;-) P.S. love GWT too ... On 8 Okt., 11:35, Deba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I adore Julia for her love for GWT. And of course I love GWT... > > :) >

Re: Approximate release time for GWT 2.0

2008-10-08 Thread Deba
I adore Julia for her love for GWT. And of course I love GWT... :) On Oct 8, 5:21 am, julia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > +1. > I have been searching for an updated road map for a while. > > PS.: Warning to the ones displeased with uncalled for emotional bursts > and declarations of love: skip th

Re: Approximate release time for GWT 2.0

2008-10-07 Thread julia
+1. I have been searching for an updated road map for a while. PS.: Warning to the ones displeased with uncalled for emotional bursts and declarations of love: skip the next line. I adore GWT, the work of the team and the community - you guys rock the house, thanks for being there. On Oct 8, 6:0

Approximate release time for GWT 2.0

2008-10-07 Thread jbdhl
Can anyone give an estimate for when GWT 2.0 will be released? Will it be within a year? Or two years? I ask because we have decided to move our fairly large application to GWT as soon as the i18n-part becomes sufficiently mature and we need to know how to prioritize our resources. That is, we wi