Re: [gwt-contrib] Possible GWT.create() Improvements (link)

2013-08-11 Thread John A. Tamplin
On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 2:29 AM, Goktug Gokdogan wrote: > An example use-case would be implementing String.format when the format > string is a compile-time constant. I had a proof of concept mostly working > for this, but it was going to require more surgery to the compiler than I > was willing

Re: [gwt-contrib] Possible GWT.create() Improvements (link)

2013-08-11 Thread Goktug Gokdogan
On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 10:16 PM, John A. Tamplin wrote: > On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 1:13 AM, Goktug Gokdogan wrote: > >> Even though the current form is pretty flexible and you can mix and match >> the two, it doesn't mean it makes sense to do so. I'm having hard time >> thinking about out a good

Re: [gwt-contrib] Possible GWT.create() Improvements (link)

2013-08-11 Thread Goktug Gokdogan
Today, even GWT generator developers are having trouble debugging generated code with -gen (just think GWTTestCase). It is not very practical for every day usage of end users. I don't know how well APT support of IDEs are today but that's something that IDE's itself can improve upon and we can just

Re: [gwt-contrib] Possible GWT.create() Improvements (link)

2013-08-11 Thread Goktug Gokdogan
On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Brian Slesinsky wrote: > >>2. IDE support: IDE can trigger codegen (esp. for debugging) >>> >> >> My experience with this has been pretty poor, and running GWT with -gen >> is at least as useful. >> > > Also, Super Dev Mode gives you access to all the generate

Re: [gwt-contrib] Possible GWT.create() Improvements (link)

2013-08-11 Thread Goktug Gokdogan
On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 10:28 AM, John A. Tamplin wrote: > On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 7:16 PM, Goktug Gokdogan wrote: > >> I think in the long-run we should separate the two concepts that is being >> tackled by GWT.create today. >> >> First purpose is the class replacement, especially used by permut

Re: [gwt-contrib] Possible GWT.create() Improvements (link)

2013-08-11 Thread Goktug Gokdogan
APT is missing mostly whole-world kind of informations in TypeOracle (e.g. getAllSubTypes) but perhaps this is also advantage and that is why it help the compiler to scale better :) Also looking at the usages of getAllSubTypes it is not like a major deal if we replace GWT-RPC with something that is

Re: [gwt-contrib] Possible GWT.create() Improvements (link)

2013-08-11 Thread John A. Tamplin
On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 1:13 AM, Goktug Gokdogan wrote: > Even though the current form is pretty flexible and you can mix and match > the two, it doesn't mean it makes sense to do so. I'm having hard time > thinking about out a good use case that would make a single complex mix and > match more a

Re: [gwt-contrib] Possible GWT.create() Improvements (link)

2013-08-11 Thread Goktug Gokdogan
Even though the current form is pretty flexible and you can mix and match the two, it doesn't mean it makes sense to do so. I'm having hard time thinking about out a good use case that would make a single complex mix and match more appealing than having a separate group of class replacements and a

Re: [gwt-contrib] Re: Google team meeting notes for August 7 (and earlier)

2013-08-11 Thread Brian Slesinsky
I did do some profiling and at the time it looked like a good 40% was spent in the JDT. It will depend on the app though; I'm not satisfied I understand the performance. I've built some infrastructure for collecting better performance metrics inside Google, but at the moment I've put that aside to

Re: [gwt-contrib] Thoughts on dropwizard framework as a backend for GWT

2013-08-11 Thread John A. Tamplin
On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Rafiq Ahamed wrote: > Dear Folks, >Any thoughts on DropWizard framework (http://dropwizard.codahale.com/) > as a backend for GWT. RESTFUL webservices is the way to go and I feel GWT > RPC is an Anti-Pattern. > GWT RPC was never intended to be the solution to

[gwt-contrib] Integrating Spiffy UI into GWT

2013-08-11 Thread Rafiq Ahamed
Dear folks, I have been a heavy GWT user for the past 4 years in a number of projects. I have used M-GWT and it is great as well. Even though, I like GWT/M-GWT, I dislike the usage of GWT RPC's. RESTFUL webservices integration is the way to go so that the server side can be anything includ

[gwt-contrib] Thoughts on dropwizard framework as a backend for GWT

2013-08-11 Thread Rafiq Ahamed
Dear Folks, Any thoughts on DropWizard framework (http://dropwizard.codahale.com/) as a backend for GWT. RESTFUL webservices is the way to go and I feel GWT RPC is an Anti-Pattern. And also, what about integrating ApacheCouchDB or ApacheSolr (Json style Schema less 4.4 version) as a back