Hi all,
Bernie's question (8:55 a.m. in the thread below) -- "Medicaid is sometimes capitated and sometime not. Is this information available from the Capricorn sites." -- may be divided into two questions: 1) What level of granularity and accuracy is available in the payor (and/or "financial class") fields in each CAPriCORN institution's source database (EHR or related repository)? 2) What level of granularity might each institution be willing to provide for our city-wide mapping project? In my experience, even the most granular values stored by an institution in its EHR/repository are not always clear-cut as to whether the patient's Medicaid coverage was capitated or not. Some records are clear-cut: e.g., "ILLINICARE HEALTH PLAN MEDICAID MCO" is Medicaid managed care. Some records are clear-cut as long as one knows the local environment well: e.g., "NEXTLEVEL HEALTH MCO" is Medicaid managed care even though it does not say the word "Medicaid." But some records have insurance labels that are vague (intentionally or unintentionally) as to capitation: e.g., "MEDICAID IL - STATUS PENDING." Also, values are sometimes truncated, etc. Also some Medicaid records, in my view, should be placed into a third category (an "other" category): e.g., "MEDICAID SPENDDOWN." Some health care institutions have financial/reimbursement offices and systems that may have more detailed information than the EHR/repository does about the insurance status for each encounter, but those separate systems (if not already being used in the ETL processes) would require substantial work (and local approvals) to access. thank you, marc ________________________________ From: Kho, Abel <abel....@nm.org> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 1:25 PM To: Bernard Black; Dan Connolly; gpc-dev@listserv.kumc.edu Cc: Sparapani, Rodney; Marc Brian Rosenman; Laura Jarmila Rasmussen-Torvik; Theresa L. Walunas Subject: Re: Medicaid types I'm going to pull in Theresa who works most closely with Medicaid office in our group. ________________________________ From: Bernard Black <bbl...@kellogg.northwestern.edu> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 1:24 PM To: Kho, Abel; Dan Connolly; gpc-dev@listserv.kumc.edu Cc: Sparapani, Rodney; Rosenman, Marc (NU); Rasmussen-Torvik, Laura (NU) Subject: RE: Medicaid types Abel and Marc: March may be able to tell us for Northwestern, but what do we know about Medicaid in Illinois? In some states, Medicaid is all/essentially all capitated, in some it is mostly fee for service, in some states, there is more variance. What is known about Illinois Medicaid? Bernie ************************************************************* Bernard S. Black Chabraja Professor, Northwestern University Pritzker Law School and Kellogg School of Management 375 East Chicago Ave., Chicago IL 60611 bbl...@northwestern.edu<mailto:bbl...@northwestern.edu> tel: law: 312-503-2784<tel:312-503-2784>; Kellogg 847-491-5049<tel:847-491-5049>; cell: 847-807-9599<tel:847-807-9599> papers on SSRN at: http://ssrn.com/author=16042<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__ssrn.com_author-3D16042&d=CwMFAw&c=yHlS04HhBraes5BQ9ueu5zKhE7rtNXt_d012z2PA6ws&r=6iGCNUxWN1otnhD8dl2Tsa4-b4Xql3efbfa6ed3bY3Y&m=v8CmeixW3DFjVZPz_nynJ2PnbE2mUa1PAeXcUMGSvlo&s=w43Vp-IBPID4Jt93MlroqwI-nXEdczDIHxCXmJHUrQ0&e=> ************************************************************ From: Kho, Abel [mailto:abel....@nm.org] Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 10:27 AM To: Bernard Black <bbl...@kellogg.northwestern.edu>; Dan Connolly <dconno...@kumc.edu>; gpc-dev@listserv.kumc.edu Cc: Sparapani, Rodney <rspar...@mcw.edu>; Marc Brian Rosenman <marc.rosen...@northwestern.edu> Subject: Re: Medicaid types I don't know the answer to this but I suspect Marc may be able to know this based on the work he is doing now to get a handle on the diversity of insurance types. ________________________________ From: Bernard Black <bbl...@kellogg.northwestern.edu<mailto:bbl...@kellogg.northwestern.edu>> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 8:55 AM To: Dan Connolly; gpc-dev@listserv.kumc.edu<mailto:gpc-dev@listserv.kumc.edu> Cc: Sparapani, Rodney; Rosenman, Marc (NU); Kho, Abel Subject: Medicaid types Medicaid is sometimes capitated and sometime not. Is this information available from the GPC sites? It would be useful to have this, if knowable. Abel: Same question for the Capricorn sites. Capitated plans can be called "managed care", or "health maintenance organization (HMO)" and perhaps other names. Thank you, Bernie ************************************************************* Bernard S. Black bbl...@northwestern.edu Nicholas J. 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