Re: [gpfsug-discuss] What is an independent fileset? was: mmbackup with fileset : scope errors

2017-05-18 Thread Jez Tucker
/delete the data, rename, voila. From: "Jaime Pinto" To: "Marc A Kaplan" Cc: "gpfsug main discussion list" Date: 05/18/2017 12:36 PM Subject:Re: [gpfsug-discuss] What is an independent fileset? was: mmbackupwith fileset : scope error

Re: [gpfsug-discuss] What is an independent fileset? was: mmbackup with fileset : scope errors

2017-05-18 Thread Jaime Pinto
llish, and/or you don't need the backups -- create independent filesets, copy/move/delete the data, rename, voila. From: "Jaime Pinto" To: "Marc A Kaplan" Cc: "gpfsug main discussion list" Date: 05/18/2017 12:36 PM Subject: Re: [gpfsug

Re: [gpfsug-discuss] What is an independent fileset? was: mmbackup with fileset : scope errors

2017-05-18 Thread Marc A Kaplan
; To: "Marc A Kaplan" Cc: "gpfsug main discussion list" Date: 05/18/2017 12:36 PM Subject: Re: [gpfsug-discuss] What is an independent fileset? was: mmbackupwith fileset : scope errors Marc The -P option may be a very good workaround, but I still have

Re: [gpfsug-discuss] What is an independent fileset? was: mmbackup with fileset : scope errors

2017-05-18 Thread Jaime Pinto
and/or unhappy!) "converting from one fileset to another" --- sorry there is no such thing. Filesets are kinda like little filesystems within filesystems. Moving a file from one fileset to another requires a copy operation. There is no fast move nor hardlinking. --marc From: "

Re: [gpfsug-discuss] What is an independent fileset? was: mmbackup with fileset : scope errors

2017-05-18 Thread Sobey, Richard A
reference. Richard From: gpfsug-discuss-boun...@spectrumscale.org [mailto:gpfsug-discuss-boun...@spectrumscale.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Ulmer Sent: 18 May 2017 15:48 To: gpfsug main discussion list Subject: Re: [gpfsug-discuss] What is an independent fileset? was: mmbackup with fileset : scope

Re: [gpfsug-discuss] What is an independent fileset? was: mmbackup with fileset : scope errors

2017-05-18 Thread Stephen Ulmer
> To: gpfsug main discussion list <mailto:gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org>> > Subject: Re: [gpfsug-discuss] What is an independent fileset? was: mmbackup > with fileset : scope errors > > Here is one big reason independent filesets are problematic: > A5.13: > Table 43

Re: [gpfsug-discuss] What is an independent fileset? was: mmbackup with fileset : scope errors

2017-05-18 Thread Sobey, Richard A
independent fileset? was: mmbackup with fileset : scope errors Here is one big reason independent filesets are problematic: A5.13: Table 43. Maximum number of filesets Version of GPFS Maximum Number of Dependent Filesets Maximum Number of Independent Filesets IBM Spectrum Scale V4 10,000

Re: [gpfsug-discuss] What is an independent fileset? was: mmbackup with fileset : scope errors

2017-05-18 Thread David D. Johnson
Here is one big reason independent filesets are problematic: A5.13: Table 43. Maximum number of filesets Version of GPFS Maximum Number of Dependent FilesetsMaximum Number of Independent Filesets IBM Spectrum Scale V4 10,000 1,000 GPFS V3.5 10,000 1,000 Another is that each independe

Re: [gpfsug-discuss] What is an independent fileset? was: mmbackup with fileset : scope errors

2017-05-18 Thread Marc A Kaplan
8/2017 09:58 AM Subject: Re: [gpfsug-discuss] What is an independent fileset? was: mmbackupwith fileset : scope errors Thanks for the explanation Mark and Luis, It begs the question: why filesets are created as dependent by default, if the adverse repercussions can be so gr

Re: [gpfsug-discuss] What is an independent fileset? was: mmbackup with fileset : scope errors

2017-05-18 Thread Peter Childs
As I understand it, mmbackup calls mmapplypolicy so this stands for mmapplypolicy too. mmapplypolicy scans the metadata inodes (file) as requested depending on the query supplied. You can ask mmapplypolicy to scan a fileset, inode space or filesystem. If scanning a fileset it scans the i

Re: [gpfsug-discuss] What is an independent fileset? was: mmbackup with fileset : scope errors

2017-05-18 Thread Jaime Pinto
Thanks for the explanation Mark and Luis, It begs the question: why filesets are created as dependent by default, if the adverse repercussions can be so great afterward? Even in my case, where I manage GPFS and TSM deployments (and I have been around for a while), didn't realize at all that

[gpfsug-discuss] What is an independent fileset? was: mmbackup with fileset : scope errors

2017-05-18 Thread Marc A Kaplan
When I see "independent fileset" (in Spectrum/GPFS/Scale) I always think and try to read that as "inode space". An "independent fileset" has all the attributes of an (older-fashioned) dependent fileset PLUS all of its files are represented by inodes that are in a separable range of inode numbe