Re: [GRASS-dev] Planning GRASS GIS 7.0.0RC1

On 20/01/15 18:04, Markus Neteler wrote: On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 11:21 PM, Anna Petrášová wrote: On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 12:59 PM, Martin Landa wrote: 2015-01-16 16:31 GMT+01:00 Yann Chemin : In view of Markus M explanation, +1 for RC2 today rather than tomorrow. I don't see any reason wh

Re: [GRASS-dev] Planning GRASS GIS 7.0.0RC1

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 9:19 AM, Moritz Lennert wrote: > On 20/01/15 18:04, Markus Neteler wrote: >> On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 11:21 PM, Anna Petrášová >>> On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 12:59 PM, Martin Landa >> There is a plan: >> http://trac.osgeo.org/grass/wiki/RFC/4_ReleaseProcedure > > Well, this p

[GRASS-dev] Testsuite script v.generalize

(I have taken liberty to rename the subject - otherwise this gets lost) Vaclav, can you please move your useful instructions to the documentation? thanks Markus On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 3:54 AM, Vaclav Petras wrote: > On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 5:08 PM, Markus Metz >> On Sat, Jan 17, 2015 at 10:21

Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?

Just for fun, I made a couple of tests there: http://www.lesfavrets.fr/telec/grass_splash.tar.gz using : - Fontin, a font by Jos Buivenga (exljbris a nice type foundry), licence here : http://www.exljbris.com/eula.html - an arbitrary image picked somewhere on the web only fo the test (probably not

Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?

On 21.01.2015 12:37, Vincent Bain wrote: Just for fun, I made a couple of tests there: http://www.lesfavrets.fr/telec/grass_splash.tar.gz Awesome work, as usual! Splash #1 is "ageless". Splash #3 is modern. +100 Nikos ___ grass-dev mailing list gr

Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?

Nice ideas :) I like #3, still if you could try to make a version with less aggressive green for comparison. As goes for startup screen - the good ol' TCL/Tk based startup screen had a screen height dependant layout [1]. It was simply checking some "screen height" variable set by startup sh script

Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?

On 21 January 2015 at 12:03, Maris Nartiss wrote: > Nice ideas :) > I like #3, still if you could try to make a version with less > aggressive green for comparison. > I also like splash3 and welkome4 with less aggressive green. > > > Māris. > -- ciao Luca http://gis.cri.fmach.it/delucchi/ www

Re: [GRASS-dev] wxGUI not starting on Ubuntu 14.04.1

On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 5:12 PM, Markus Neteler wrote: > Hi, > > we just compiled the current relbranch SVN on an Ubuntu box and get: > > GRASS 7.0.0svn (latlong):/grassdata/latlong/matteo > g.gui > Launching GUI in the background, please wait... > Traceback (most recent call last): > File > "

Re: [GRASS-dev] [GRASS GIS] #2490: EPSG code not saved in PROJ_EPSG

#2490: EPSG code not saved in PROJ_EPSG +--- Reporter: hellik | Owner: martinl Type: defect | Status: assigned Priority: major | Milestone:

Re: [GRASS-dev] Planning GRASS GIS 7.0.0RC1

Hi, 2015-01-21 10:56 GMT+01:00 Markus Neteler : > - Update Release/7.0.0RC1-News <<- Should it become generic RC News? yes, I would vote for generic as we did for betas. [...] Martin -- Martin Landa http://geo.fsv.cvut.cz/gwiki/Landa http://gismentors.eu/mentors/landa ___

Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Vincent Bain wrote: > Just for fun, I made a couple of tests there: > http://www.lesfavrets.fr/telec/grass_splash.tar.gz ... nice work! Suggestion: Splash #1 with an historical (world) map in the background (with, say, 90% transparency) would be perfect. IMHO we

Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 9:28 AM, Markus Neteler wrote: > On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Vincent Bain wrote: > > Just for fun, I made a couple of tests there: > > http://www.lesfavrets.fr/telec/grass_splash.tar.gz Please, have a look at my suggestion in the attachment for welcome/startup scr

Re: [GRASS-dev] Planning GRASS GIS 7.0.0RC1

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Martin Landa wrote: > Hi, > > 2015-01-21 10:56 GMT+01:00 Markus Neteler : >> - Update Release/7.0.0RC1-News <<- Should it become generic RC News? > > yes, I would vote for generic as we did for betas. Done (with redirect link on old page + updated in CMS): http:/

Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 6:03 PM, Vaclav Petras wrote: > Please, have a look at my suggestion in the attachment for welcome/startup > screen/window. It contains a graphics but it has small height. Title and > whole upper part is changed. Nice - perhaps the "Welcome to GRASS GIS." should be simply

Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?

Would location directory be clearer than just location? Doug On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 12:03 PM, Vaclav Petras wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 9:28 AM, Markus Neteler wrote: > >> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Vincent Bain wrote: >> > Just for fun, I made a couple of tests there: >> > htt

Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?

On 21 January 2015 at 22:54, Markus Neteler wrote: > On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 6:03 PM, Vaclav Petras > wrote: > > Please, have a look at my suggestion in the attachment for > welcome/startup > > screen/window. It contains a graphics but it has small height. Title and > > whole upper part is chang

Re: [GRASS-dev] Planning GRASS GIS 7.0.0RC1

2015-01-21 18:11 GMT+01:00 Markus Neteler : > Done (with redirect link on old page + updated in CMS): > http://trac.osgeo.org/grass/wiki/Release/7.0.0RC-News thanks, Martin -- Martin Landa http://geo.fsv.cvut.cz/gwiki/Landa http://gismentors.eu/mentors/landa _

Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 12:24 PM, Markus Neteler wrote: > On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 6:03 PM, Vaclav Petras wrote: > > The > > gray in the background of the image is the one of the window done using > > transparency so it should always match with the window. Unfortunately, this > > will fail miserab

Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?

On Jan 21, 2015, at 12:03 PM, Vaclav Petras wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 9:28 AM, Markus Neteler wrote: > On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Vincent Bain wrote: > > Just for fun, I made a couple of tests there: > > http://www.lesfavrets.fr/telec/grass_splash.tar.gz > > Please, have a loo

Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 1:04 PM, Helena Mitasova wrote: > I don't have a good solution - it is a long standing issue, but going back > to just location and mapset won't help, I'm suggesting to use "location and mapset" or "GRASS location and GRASS mapset" and explanation (but not only in manual

Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?

On Jan 21, 2015, at 1:13 PM, Vaclav Petras wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 1:04 PM, Helena Mitasova wrote: > I don't have a good solution - it is a long standing issue, but going back to > just location and mapset won't help, > > I'm suggesting to use "location and mapset" or "GRASS locati

Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?

On Jan 21, 2015 6:56 PM, "Vaclav Petras" wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 12:24 PM, Markus Neteler wrote: > > The "project" has been introduced in the past to de-confuse user > > coming from "other" GIS. > > "Location" alone is not quite clear I fear. > > I see the motivation but random rename

Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?

On Jan 21, 2015, at 1:35 PM, Markus Neteler wrote: > > On Jan 21, 2015 6:56 PM, "Vaclav Petras" wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 12:24 PM, Markus Neteler wrote: > > > The "project" has been introduced in the past to de-confuse user > > > coming from "other" GIS. > > > "Location" alone is

Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?

On 21/01/15 19:35, Markus Neteler wrote: On Jan 21, 2015 6:56 PM, "Vaclav Petras" mailto:wenzesl...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 12:24 PM, Markus Neteler mailto:nete...@osgeo.org>> wrote: > > The "project" has been introduced in the past to de-confuse user > > coming from "

Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?

Needless to say, I’m in agreement with these sentiments. GRASS is great software and it would be nice if we could convey that visually as well as functionally. Michael __ C. Michael Barton Director, Center for Social Dynamics & Complexity Professor of Anthropology, Sc

Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?

The splash and start up screens are very nice. I still like a map background for a splash and am into historical stuff. But the simple and classy look is good. Michael __ C. Michael Barton Director, Center for Social Dynamics & Complexity Professor of Anthropology, Sc

Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?

This is an improvement over what we have now. Commenting on other subsequent posts (a lot happened while I was in the meeting). We don’t need “Welcome to GRASS GIS” here. We can have that in the splash. Actually, it would be better visually to have the splash appear first, followed by the start

Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?

On Jan 21, 2015, at 2:16 PM, Moritz Lennert wrote: > On 21/01/15 19:35, Markus Neteler wrote: >> >> On Jan 21, 2015 6:56 PM, "Vaclav Petras" > > wrote: >> > >> > On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 12:24 PM, Markus Neteler > > wrote: >> > > The "project

Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?

>> In my opinion we should not have the location selection dialog at all. >> Revolution! >> >> We should start GRASS right away in latlong like most GIS in the world. >> >> Then let the user open the dialog to change projection if desired from >> inside. >> >> This would avoid a lot of questions r

Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?

.. We should start GRASS right away in latlong like most GIS in the world. Then let the user open the dialog to change projection if desired from inside. This would avoid a lot of questions right away. Please don't do this ! I find the fact that GRASS does not provide a default projection s

Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?

I agree with Moritz’s concern. This is a GRASS strongpoint and a failing of most other GIS packages. Ironically, with other packages like Arc and QGIS, users *think* they know what they are doing but they don’t. With GRASS they realize that they don’t know what they are doing before they start :

Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Michael Barton wrote: > I agree with Moritz’s concern. This is a GRASS strongpoint and a failing > of most other GIS packages. Ironically, with other packages like Arc and > QGIS, users *think* they know what they are doing but they don’t. With > GRASS they reali

Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?

[..] Apologies for erasing the above text. Moritz Lennert wrote: Please don't do this ! I find the fact that GRASS does not provide a default projection system, but forces the user to think about projection from the start, one of its strengths, both for work and for teaching. Helena Mita

Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?

On 21.01.2015 21:31, Michael Barton wrote: The splash and start up screens are very nice. I still like a map background for a splash and am into historical stuff. But the simple and classy look is good. If there is going to be "historical" map, why not select something "historical" that was

Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?

Hi, thanks to all those who sent feedback on my strictly cosmetic contrib'. Nikos & Luca: sorry for the flashy green tone, I'm daltonic... Markus and Michael: do you think of a particular historical map ? would a partial view on the map do the job ? Well, to be continued then... On the other han

Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?

Le mercredi 21 janvier 2015 à 22:44 +0200, Nikos Alexandris a écrit : > If there is going to be "historical" map, why not select something > "historical" that was created with GRASS? @MarkusN: any material > available? Among the american library of congress maps collection, there is the famous

Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 8:16 PM, Moritz Lennert wrote: > On 21/01/15 19:35, Markus Neteler wrote: >> In my opinion we should not have the location selection dialog at all. >> Revolution! >> >> We should start GRASS right away in latlong like most GIS in the world. >> >> Then let the user open the

[GRASS-dev] Making start of GRASS GIS easier for newcomers

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Markus Neteler wrote: > On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 8:16 PM, Moritz Lennert > wrote: > > On 21/01/15 19:35, Markus Neteler wrote: > >> In my opinion we should not have the location selection dialog at all. > >> Revolution! > >> > >> We should start GRASS right away i

Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?

Vincent, Here is an extract of my post, replying to Yann Chemin suggestion for a replacement for the Medieval central European map that started this thread. I mentioned 2 historical maps and gave example links. I also like the idea of a cool map created with GRASS. I’m generally open if it is g

Re: [GRASS-dev] Planning GRASS GIS 7.0.0RC1

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 4:56 AM, Markus Neteler wrote: > On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 9:19 AM, Moritz Lennert > wrote: > > On 20/01/15 18:04, Markus Neteler wrote: > >> On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 11:21 PM, Anna Petrášová > > >>> On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 12:59 PM, Martin Landa > > >> There is a plan: >

Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?

On 22 January 2015 at 03:25, Markus Neteler wrote: > On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 8:16 PM, Moritz Lennert > wrote: > > On 21/01/15 19:35, Markus Neteler wrote: > >> In my opinion we should not have the location selection dialog at all. > >> Revolution! > >> > >> We should start GRASS right away in la

Re: [GRASS-dev] [GRASS GIS] #2532: TypeError: environment can only contain string when launching script on Windows

#2532: TypeError: environment can only contain string when launching script on Windows -+-- Reporter: annakrat | Owner: grass-dev@… Type: defect | Status: new

Re: [GRASS-dev] Making start of GRASS GIS easier for newcomers

Looks good Vaclav, it makes sense on the flow, more intuitive. On 22 January 2015 at 10:05, Vaclav Petras wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 5:15 PM, Vaclav Petras > wrote: > >> >> To satisfy everybody, I suggest to provide a buttons with something like >> "Take me to LL", "Take me to defaul

Re: [GRASS-dev] Making start of GRASS GIS easier for newcomers

Just copying my last comment from the source thread... I can concur on the feeling of being lost but most students. What about a grass70 -b flag for "beginner" or something like this. That means we can work through the discovery straight "out of the box". It would be even easier to hav

Re: [GRASS-dev] Making start of GRASS GIS easier for newcomers

This is a good start. Here are some suggestions for simplifying the text even more. = [Select GRASS GIS database directory] (make this a button rather than a text box with browse; no need to show this path) "A GRASS GIS database directory contains one or more

Re: [GRASS-dev] Making start of GRASS GIS easier for newcomers

On 22 January 2015 at 11:30, Michael Barton wrote: > > This is a good start. Here are some suggestions for simplifying the text > even more. > > = > > [Select GRASS GIS database directory] > > (make this a button rather than a text box with browse; no need to s

Re: [GRASS-dev] Making start of GRASS GIS easier for newcomers

Beginners perhaps need to think about projections at the outset more so than advanced users. But I don’t think a ‘beginner’ and ‘advanced’ user version of the interface is a good idea. If we work out a way to simplify and/or streamline starting GRASS, it should just be the way the program works

Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?

Nice maps, thank you. All that remains is to find a strong idea and some spare time to achieve it. V. Le jeudi 22 janvier 2015 à 00:14 +, Michael Barton a écrit : > Vincent, > > > Here is an extract of my post, replying to Yann Chemin suggestion for > a replacement for the Medieval central

Re: [GRASS-dev] Making start of GRASS GIS easier for newcomers

I do understand, and feel the same way about it. There is a reason for the set up to ask for these indeed, and it is definitely a better structure in the long run for using it. This raises the question of who will sit down and go through this, when any other GIS just get to work. So yes, modifying

Re: [GRASS-dev] Making start of GRASS GIS easier for newcomers

If I am not wrong, no-one mentioned the QGIS interface to GRASS (when creating a new Location & Mapset(s)). It's not bad at all. In fact, it's good. Nikos ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/g

Re: [GRASS-dev] Planning GRASS GIS 7.0.0RC1

On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 1:40 AM, Anna Petrášová wrote: > On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 4:56 AM, Markus Neteler wrote: >> Well, it is very difficult to predict the final release date. See here >> for the undone backports which I have found (indeed, it is the task of >> the respective developer to take c

Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?

Dear Michael, while the maps linked below are very nice, why and how do they showcase GRASS' capabilities? Or is it about, only, to represent in which areas GRASS can do stuff? Why not have a splash that is GRASS' very unique identity? What it is, what it can do. Nikos On 22.01.2015 0

Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?

On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 8:10 AM, Nikos Alexandris wrote: > Dear Michael, > > while the maps linked below are very nice, why and how do they showcase > GRASS' capabilities? Or is it about, only, to represent in which areas > GRASS can do stuff? > > Why not have a splash that is GRASS' very unique

Re: [GRASS-dev] Making start of GRASS GIS easier for newcomers

http://docs.qgis.org/2.2/ko/docs/training_manual/grass/grass_setup.html http://docs.qgis.org/2.2/ko/_images/grass_folder.png Spanish text https://ecoslackware.wordpress.com/tag/grass-qgis-plugin/ Italian text http://qgis4dummies.wikidot.com/grass-plugin On 22 January 2015 at 12:35, Nikos Alex