Re: [GRASS-dev] Who wants GUI and who does not and why

2014-05-04 Thread Glynn Clements
Huidae Cho wrote: > I'm not talking about the current structure. Yes, the modules are the CLI > right now and the GUI calls the CLI modules internally. What I'm saying is > that it would great if we could separate the logic and CLI and put the > logic in plugins We already do that, except that t

Re: [GRASS-dev] Who wants GUI and who does not and why

2014-05-02 Thread Blumentrath, Stefan
Hi, if you allow me a user comment on this: > The user wants either grass-cli & grass-lib or grass-gui & grass-lib. Actually, the combination of CLI and GUI is extremely handy in everyday work, which is why I regularly introduce students quite early to this combination. The possibility to copy

Re: [GRASS-dev] Who wants GUI and who does not and why

2014-05-02 Thread Huidae Cho
On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Vaclav Petras wrote: > > > > On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 8:29 AM, Huidae Cho wrote: > >> I agree. grass-cli and grass-gui should be completely independent and at >> the same level. They are simply two different UIs that directly depend on >> grass-lib. The user wants

Re: [GRASS-dev] Who wants GUI and who does not and why

2014-05-02 Thread Huidae Cho
I'm not talking about the current structure. Yes, the modules are the CLI right now and the GUI calls the CLI modules internally. What I'm saying is that it would great if we could separate the logic and CLI and put the logic in plugins and let the CLI and GUI calls the logic. GUI would be independ

Re: [GRASS-dev] Who wants GUI and who does not and why

2014-05-02 Thread Vaclav Petras
On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 8:29 AM, Huidae Cho wrote: > I agree. grass-cli and grass-gui should be completely independent and at > the same level. They are simply two different UIs that directly depend on > grass-lib. The user wants either grass-cli & grass-lib or grass-gui & > grass-lib. > > This of

Re: [GRASS-dev] Who wants GUI and who does not and why

2014-05-02 Thread Moritz Lennert
On 02/05/14 14:29, Huidae Cho wrote: I agree. grass-cli and grass-gui should be completely independent and at the same level. They are simply two different UIs that directly depend on grass-lib. The user wants either grass-cli & grass-lib or grass-gui & grass-lib. Now, my opinion is if we put an

Re: [GRASS-dev] Who wants GUI and who does not and why

2014-05-02 Thread Huidae Cho
I agree. grass-cli and grass-gui should be completely independent and at the same level. They are simply two different UIs that directly depend on grass-lib. The user wants either grass-cli & grass-lib or grass-gui & grass-lib. Now, my opinion is if we put analysis and modeling code in grass-lib,

Re: [GRASS-dev] Who wants GUI and who does not and why

2014-05-02 Thread Rainer M Krug
Luca Delucchi writes: > On 18 April 2014 11:15, Pietro wrote: >> Hi Vaclav, >> >> actually I'm a bit more extremist... :-) >> >> I would like to split GRASS in three main parts: >> - grass-lib >> - grass-cli >> - grass-gui >> > > I also like this idea... I think this would be a very good idea a

Re: [GRASS-dev] Who wants GUI and who does not and why

2014-05-01 Thread Huidae Cho
I really like this idea and want to go further by splitting into four main parts: - grass-lib: keep the current core libraries as is. Low level GIS layer - grass-plugins: implement raster/raster3d/vector/... whatever the current commands implement as libraries. These libraries spit out xml for bu

Re: [GRASS-dev] Who wants GUI and who does not and why

2014-04-20 Thread Rashad M
Hi, Ubuntu follows debian packaging for GRASS GIS like others. And most of the packaging rules are copied from DebianGIS. So for debian, and its derivaties. GRASS packaging has grass-core, grass-gui, grass-docs, packages grass-dev. too is there for development version. On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at

Re: [GRASS-dev] Who wants GUI and who does not and why

2014-04-19 Thread Luca Delucchi
On 18 April 2014 11:15, Pietro wrote: > Hi Vaclav, > > actually I'm a bit more extremist... :-) > > I would like to split GRASS in three main parts: > - grass-lib > - grass-cli > - grass-gui > I also like this idea... > > At least should be possible to build these parts separately, leaving > the

Re: [GRASS-dev] Who wants GUI and who does not and why

2014-04-18 Thread Martin Landa
Hi, 2014-04-18 11:15 GMT+02:00 Pietro : > I would like to split GRASS in three main parts: > - grass-lib > - grass-cli > - grass-gui I was thinking about splitting `grass` package at least manually for OSGeo4W framework. This idea makes sense to me. Martin

Re: [GRASS-dev] Who wants GUI and who does not and why

2014-04-18 Thread Pietro
Hi Vaclav, actually I'm a bit more extremist... :-) I would like to split GRASS in three main parts: - grass-lib - grass-cli - grass-gui often we have these things mixed to each other, for example a lot of GRASS modules implement functions that could be moved to grass/lib (e.g. r.stats). I would

Re: [GRASS-dev] Who wants GUI and who does not and why

2014-04-17 Thread Moritz Lennert
I agree with what Michael and Benjamin have said, but since I was cited personally just a short reaction: On 16/04/14 04:30, Vaclav Petras wrote: Hi all, I believe, I was calling for this discussion recently, and I'm calling for it again. It seems that there are quite different opinions on GRA

Re: [GRASS-dev] Who wants GUI and who does not and why

2014-04-17 Thread Yann Chemin
1. Allow for the release stable versions of core GRASS without having to wait for GUI fixes on different OS. +1 for that ! ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev

Re: [GRASS-dev] Who wants GUI and who does not and why

2014-04-17 Thread Benjamin Ducke
on, http://csdc.asu.edu > > > > > On Apr 16, 2014, at 5:22 AM, grass-dev-requ...@lists.osgeo.org > <mailto:grass-dev-requ...@lists.osgeo.org> wrote: > >> *From: *Yann Chemin mailto:yche...@gmail.com>> >> *Subject: **Re: [GRASS-dev] Who wan

Re: [GRASS-dev] Who wants GUI and who does not and why

2014-04-17 Thread Michael Barton
>> Subject: Re: [GRASS-dev] Who wants GUI and who does not and why Date: April 16, 2014 at 5:20:59 AM MST To: Vaclav Petras mailto:wenzesl...@gmail.com>> Cc: GRASS developers list mailto:grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org>> Reply-To: mailto:yann.che...@gmail.com>> Maybe some of the

Re: [GRASS-dev] Who wants GUI and who does not and why

2014-04-16 Thread Yann Chemin
Maybe some of the earlier involved developers can share their thoughts on the Tcl/Tk GUI and its integration, its rise and fall, why and where this experience can lead the wxPython GUI now... On 16 April 2014 08:00, Vaclav Petras wrote: > Hi all, > > I believe, I was calling for this discussion

[GRASS-dev] Who wants GUI and who does not and why

2014-04-15 Thread Vaclav Petras
Hi all, I believe, I was calling for this discussion recently, and I'm calling for it again. It seems that there are quite different opinions on GRASS GIS GUI ranging from "GUI is the only thing which brings us new users" to "no GUI needed". There is no better time to discuss this: we are discuss