[Grml] Re: RFC: handling of external usb devices

2006-09-11 Thread Michael Prokop
(Readded grml-user and grml-devel mailinglists to Cc so other users and devs stay informed as well.) * Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20060911 03:15]: > > Ok, I just took some minutes to finally implement it. > > (grml-)rebuildfstab supports LABELs and UUIDs now. > Fantastic. In response to the soli

Re: [Grml] Re: RFC: handling of external usb devices

2006-09-10 Thread Michael Prokop
* Michael Prokop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20060909 00:15]: > * Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20060908 23:15]: > > > When reading UUID= in fstab you very > > > probably won't know what kind of device it is. That's what I don't > > > like. > > A simple comment line above the UUID solves that. > Yes, anoth

Re: [Grml] Re: RFC: handling of external usb devices

2006-09-08 Thread Michael Prokop
* Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20060908 23:15]: > > For example I have several devices with label GRMLCFG, so your "It > > doesn't happen." definitely isn't true. > Wow, that's right: grml encourages duplicate labels that way. Quite a > bad thing. How does grml decide among all those duplicates?

[Grml] Re: RFC: handling of external usb devices

2006-09-08 Thread Mark
> For example I have several devices with label GRMLCFG, so your "It > doesn't happen." definitely isn't true. Wow, that's right: grml encourages duplicate labels that way. Quite a bad thing. How does grml decide among all those duplicates? > you have to take care of > users which are used to

Re: [Grml] Re: RFC: handling of external usb devices

2006-09-08 Thread Michael Prokop
* Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20060908 07:15]: > > It fails as soon as multiple devices have the same fs-label. > Not as bad as /dev/XYZ breakage. One can always construct failure > scenarios. In all my years I have not once encountered a duplicate fs > label on any OS. It doesn't happen. Duplic

[Grml] Re: RFC: handling of external usb devices

2006-09-07 Thread Mark
> It fails as soon as multiple devices have the same fs-label. Not as bad as /dev/XYZ breakage. One can always construct failure scenarios. In all my years I have not once encountered a duplicate fs label on any OS. It doesn't happen. Duplicate files happen all the time, not duplicate volume n

Re: [Grml] Re: RFC: handling of external usb devices

2006-09-07 Thread Michael Prokop
* Frank Lehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20060905 12:15]: > Mark wrote: > > P.S. A kind of bug report: > > We already have label-based partitions in fstab, but the auto-builder > > duplicates our manual entries with /dev/XYZ syntax. So now the fstab > > refers to the same partition twice. Yes, but

Re: [Grml] Re: RFC: handling of external usb devices

2006-09-07 Thread Michael Prokop
* Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20060905 01:15]: > > problems start with multiple devices or devices with several > > partitions on it > Or moving the USB device from PC to PC. That is the whole point of > using USB for many people. When you move the device, however, /dev/sda > becomes /dev/sdd so

Re: [Grml] Re: RFC: handling of external usb devices

2006-09-05 Thread Frank Lehmann
Mark wrote: P.S. A kind of bug report: We already have label-based partitions in fstab, but the auto-builder duplicates our manual entries with /dev/XYZ syntax. So now the fstab refers to the same partition twice. It is possible to boot "nofstab" but that is not desirable. We still want auto

[Grml] Re: RFC: handling of external usb devices

2006-09-04 Thread Mark
P.S. A kind of bug report: We already have label-based partitions in fstab, but the auto-builder duplicates our manual entries with /dev/XYZ syntax. So now the fstab refers to the same partition twice. It is possible to boot "nofstab" but that is not desirable. We still want autodetection. Wha

Re: [Grml] Re: RFC: handling of external usb devices

2006-09-04 Thread Martin Yazdzik
On Mon, 2006-09-04 at 15:58 -0700, Mark wrote: Labels/UUIDs are not merely preference.  They can be *necessary* Take my case - laptop travels everywhere - niece's camera, colleague's usb memory stick, daughter's boyfriend's usb hd, and so on. Whatever the technical implementation, let me,

[Grml] Re: RFC: handling of external usb devices

2006-09-04 Thread Mark
Without commenting on the specifics of Mika's new implementation (I need to study it), I still want to offer opinions about USB. My users fall into the USB category. > problems start with multiple devices or devices with several > partitions on it Or moving the USB device from PC to PC. That i