Re: Fwd: Would it be reasonable to list the fonts that are available by default in groff?

2021-07-16 Thread T. Kurt Bond
Yes, "sudo install-font.sh " is simpler, as long as you know how to answer the prompts! I should have started there in my explanation. I guess the fact that I run the script potentially multiple times on multiple different computers makes my usage more complicated. I'll have to read the source o

Re: Fwd: Would it be reasonable to list the fonts that are available by default in groff?

2021-07-16 Thread Peter Schaffter
Kurt, thanks for saving me having to explain why groff doesn't know anything about install-font.sh and fontforge. Doug, I hope you see this. On Sat, Jul 17, 2021, T. Kurt Bond wrote: > In the meantime, if you want to install fonts in OpenType or TrueType > formats for use with devps and devpdf, i

Fwd: Would it be reasonable to list the fonts that are available by default in groff?

2021-07-16 Thread T. Kurt Bond
Drats, I forgot to hit reply all, and my reply didn't get sent to the groff mailing list. Sigh. Here you go. -- Forwarded message - From: T. Kurt Bond Date: Sat, Jul 17, 2021 at 12:08 AM Subject: Re: Would it be reasonable to list the fonts that are available by default in groff

Re: Would it be reasonable to list the fonts that are available by default in groff?

2021-07-16 Thread Douglas McIlroy
>> I'm generally an intrepid groff user, but not when it comes to font >> installation. Anything that demystifies the process will win my applause. > Despite the vagaries of directory locations, once you understand what > install-font.sh wants and fontforge is installed install-font.sh is > relati

Bugs submitted for improving documentation of fonts provided; pdfmark/pdfroff(1) documentation; and integrating install-font.sh

2021-07-16 Thread T . Kurt Bond
On Thu, 15 Jul 2021 14:48:03 -0400, "G. Branden Robinson" wrote: > Kurt, could you file some Savannah bugs about this and the previous > issue you raised, about font repertoires? My to-do list grows faster > than I can shrink it, but I do burn items off occasionally. * bug #60929: Improve docume

Re: Macros for printing envelopes?

2021-07-16 Thread Nate Bargmann
Thanks, Peter! My printer, a Brother HL-5240, takes input from the manual tray and like you I insert the envelope and then print. Typically, I feed the envelope in with the short side at the return address in first. To be honest, I'm not entirely sure if that is portrait or landscape orientation

Re: Macros for printing envelopes?

2021-07-16 Thread Peter Schaffter
On Fri, Jul 16, 2021, James K. Lowden wrote: > On Fri, 16 Jul 2021 12:44:04 -0400 > Peter Schaffter wrote: > > > On Thu, Jul 15, 2021, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > > As I see it, with groff I can easily create files for addresses I > > > use often and should be able to code a script that accepts thos

Re: troff Memorandum Macros documentation derived from the paper "MM - Memorandum Macros"

2021-07-16 Thread T. Kurt Bond
That sounds like a very useful document! I've added a reminder to my calendar to remind me to remind you. :) On Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 5:14 PM Damian McGuckin wrote: > On Fri, 16 Jul 2021, T. Kurt Bond wrote: > > > I think this is useful since it provides a more "user guide" approach to > > learn

Re: troff Memorandum Macros documentation derived from the paper "MM - Memorandum Macros"

2021-07-16 Thread Damian McGuckin
On Fri, 16 Jul 2021, T. Kurt Bond wrote: I think this is useful since it provides a more "user guide" approach to learning MM; groff_mm(7), while an admirable and complete reference is not easy to learn MM from, in my opinion. Once I finish with the current crop of work on my plate, I will up

Re: Macros for printing envelopes?

2021-07-16 Thread James K. Lowden
On Fri, 16 Jul 2021 12:44:04 -0400 Peter Schaffter wrote: > On Thu, Jul 15, 2021, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > As I see it, with groff I can easily create files for addresses I > > use often and should be able to code a script that accepts those > > one-off addresses. > > I use this strategy with th

Re: pdfroff and tables of contents

2021-07-16 Thread James K. Lowden
On Fri, 16 Jul 2021 04:48:03 +1000 "G. Branden Robinson" wrote: > XN is not a part of any _ms_ implementation I'm aware of, not even > groff's. It does not appear in 4.2BSD ms or Version 10 Research Unix, > either. > > In the groff system, XN is defined in spdf.tmac Why not just fold spdf.tmac

RE: Gremlin Format grn

2021-07-16 Thread Jones, Larry
Ingo Schwarze writes: > > And yes, i did use that, together with a daisy wheel printer, to > produce graphics output in 1982. The "." character on the daisy > wheel wore off rather quickly. That's why they made special daisy wheels with a metal "." rather than plastic like all the other charact

Re: Gremlin Format grn

2021-07-16 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Robert, Robert Goulding wrote on Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 09:56:09AM -0600: > I once managed to compile and run the source code to gremlin, the graphic > frontend for producing grn files. But it was quite primitive, and kind of > useless, so I didn't keep it. That remark just made me put up some

Re: Macros for printing envelopes?

2021-07-16 Thread Peter Schaffter
Nate -- On Thu, Jul 15, 2021, Nate Bargmann wrote: > As I see it, with groff I can easily create files for addresses I > use often and should be able to code a script that accepts those > one-off addresses. I use this strategy with the mom macros. Here's the .mom template file: --envelope t

Re: Gremlin Format grn

2021-07-16 Thread Robert Goulding
I once managed to compile and run the source code to gremlin, the graphic frontend for producing grn files. But it was quite primitive, and kind of useless, so I didn't keep it. Robert Goulding Sent from my Google Pixel 4 On Fri, Jul 16, 2021, 9:53 AM Ingo Schwarze wrote: > Hi Wim, > > Wim Stoc

Re: Gremlin Format grn

2021-07-16 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Wim, Wim Stockman wrote on Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 10:48:15PM +0200: > Hi , I was looking into the groff doc dir and found this old file format. > the Gremlin file format for graphics. > But even on google I cannot find a lot of information about it. > Does someone have some info on it ,some docu

troff Memorandum Macros documentation derived from the paper "MM - Memorandum Macros"

2021-07-16 Thread T. Kurt Bond
The paper "MM - Memorandum Macros" by D. W. Smith, J. R. Mashey, E. C. Pariser, and N. W. Smith, AT&T Bell Laboratories, June 1980 does not seem to be available in PDF or Postscript on the Internet with a license that allows legal copying. However, the Documenter's Workbench version of the documen

Re: Question about ?roff on Reddit

2021-07-16 Thread Oliver Corff
When I followed the first reddit link a few days ago for the first time, I read a few contributions and thought that it could be a challenge to reconcile the discrepancy between the internalized knowledge about things related to the "black art" (typesetting, that is) generally prevalent in this co

Re: Question about ?roff on Reddit

2021-07-16 Thread John Ankarström
Den 2021-07-16 kl. 03:50 skrev Nate Bargmann: > I learned there is a Groff Reddit as well: > > https://www.reddit.com/r/groff/ > > It seems to have quite a bit of activity which is fantastic. I was just about to write this. I am relatively active on /r/groff (as user quote-only-eee) and it would