Re: First impressions: strange groff default font behaviour after system upgrade

2023-12-18 Thread Dave Kemper
On 12/18/23, Oliver Corff via wrote: > I tried to compile my minimal document again, with all combinations of > -e, -F /usr/share/fonts/urw35-base/ but nothing changes. The PDF file is > always 11771 bytes long. Embedding a font or a glyph should make a > difference, or not? Embedding a font

Re: Is there a Groff showcase?

2023-12-18 Thread hohe72
IMHO, the website pool should not be divided. Instead access to information should be accomplished by different means. I dump all my code snippets or running prof of concepts, what I otherwise would forget, into one directory and find these old samples later either by file naming or via grep.

Re: First impressions: strange groff default font behaviour after system upgrade

2023-12-18 Thread Deri
On Monday, 18 December 2023 21:49:55 GMT Oliver Corff wrote: > Hi Deri, > > Here we go. In the meantime I came to the conclusion that the dpdviewer > is at fault, or rather the viewer's setup; I forwarded the pdf to a > different system, and there everything was visible as intended. > > Best

Re: First impressions: strange groff default font behaviour after system upgrade

2023-12-18 Thread Oliver Corff
Hi Alexis, thank your for the quick pointer! I was totally unaware of that system. And, in addition, I wonder why evince and okular attempt start as root, id -a shows that I am in my non-privileged group, working in my regular shell. Still wondering *why* the viewers want to connect to a

Re: First impressions: strange groff default font behaviour after system upgrade

2023-12-18 Thread Alexis
Oliver Corff via writes: when starting evince I get the message Couldn't connect to accessibility bus: Failed to connect to socket /root/.cache/at-spi/bus_0: Permission denied Never seen this before, I even do not know what at-spi is. Same with okular. "at-spi" is "Assistive

Re: First impressions: strange groff default font behaviour after system upgrade

2023-12-18 Thread Oliver Corff
Hi Deri, Here we go. In the meantime I came to the conclusion that the dpdviewer is at fault, or rather the viewer's setup; I forwarded the pdf to a different system, and there everything was visible as intended. Best regards, and thank you! Oliver. On 18/12/2023 22:34, Deri wrote: On

Re: Configuring groff 1.23.0 on Fedora 39 fails to find the URW base 35 fonts

2023-12-18 Thread G. Branden Robinson
Hi Kurt, At 2023-12-18T15:40:13-0500, T. Kurt Bond wrote: > I was building groff 1.23.0 on Fedora 39 and found that its > configure script didn't find the URW base 35 fonts, although they are > installed and the directory that they are in - > /usr/share/fonts/urw-base35 - is reported by gs -h: >

Re: First impressions: strange groff default font behaviour after system upgrade

2023-12-18 Thread Deri
On Monday, 18 December 2023 21:07:16 GMT G. Branden Robinson wrote: > > > My first question: Is this new behaviour intended? > > Probably not. Oddly, not much earlier today, we got a similar report > from T. Kurt Bond about the URW fonts being troublesome--as in, not > found--in a groff build

Re: Configuring groff 1.23.0 on Fedora 39 fails to find the URW base 35 fonts

2023-12-18 Thread G. Branden Robinson
At 2023-12-18T21:39:50+, Deri wrote: > This would appear to be an issue with the part of configure which > looks for the URW fonts, Branden is the expert. I guess I'm as transparent as glass, because you saw right through my attempt to pawn this off on you.  Off-foistingly yours, Branden

Re: Configuring groff 1.23.0 on Fedora 39 fails to find the URW base 35 fonts

2023-12-18 Thread Deri
On Monday, 18 December 2023 20:40:13 GMT T. Kurt Bond wrote: > I was building groff 1.23.0 on Fedora 39 and found that its > configure script didn't find the URW base 35 fonts, although they are > installed and the directory that they are in - > /usr/share/fonts/urw-base35 - is reported by gs -h:

Re: First impressions: strange groff default font behaviour after system upgrade

2023-12-18 Thread Deri
On Monday, 18 December 2023 20:57:07 GMT Oliver Corff wrote: > Dear All, > > today I upgraded my system from Fedora 38 to Fedora 39 which has the > appreciated side-effect that groff 1.23.0 is finally installed by default. > > I tested the new installation. As was to be expected, groffer was

Re: First impressions: strange groff default font behaviour after system upgrade

2023-12-18 Thread Oliver Corff via
Hi Branden, thank you for your quick response! I had just hit the send button, and the bell rang --- I saw T. Kurt Bond's incoming mail. What a coincidence. On 18/12/2023 22:07, G. Branden Robinson wrote: Hi Oliver, At 2023-12-18T21:57:07+0100, Oliver Corff wrote: Enter groff 1.23.0. I

Re: First impressions: strange groff default font behaviour after system upgrade

2023-12-18 Thread G. Branden Robinson
Hi Oliver, At 2023-12-18T21:57:07+0100, Oliver Corff wrote: > Enter groff 1.23.0. I compiled the same file again (a translation which > I had finished just this morning, not knowing what an escape I had*), > and alas! things took an unexpected course. First I looked for the > appearance of  ≤ and

First impressions: strange groff default font behaviour after system upgrade

2023-12-18 Thread Oliver Corff
Dear All, today I upgraded my system from Fedora 38 to Fedora 39 which has the appreciated side-effect that groff 1.23.0 is finally installed by default. I tested the new installation. As was to be expected, groffer was gone (I liked it for q test runs of code snippets, so I actually miss it. I

Configuring groff 1.23.0 on Fedora 39 fails to find the URW base 35 fonts

2023-12-18 Thread T . Kurt Bond
I was building groff 1.23.0 on Fedora 39 and found that its configure script didn't find the URW base 35 fonts, although they are installed and the directory that they are in - /usr/share/fonts/urw-base35 - is reported by gs -h: GPL Ghostscript 10.02.1 (2023-11-01) Copyright (C) 2023 Artifex

Re: Is there a Groff showcase?

2023-12-18 Thread Thomas Dupond
Le 2023-12-16 à 09:44, Mike a écrit : >> A showcase as like at a trade show? > >> I think it would be better to have easy to understand single topic > prove-of-concepts samples, a bin to throw in and a whatever-grep- > function for searching. > > My original thought was: > > Is there a website

Re: Is there a Groff showcase?

2023-12-18 Thread hbezemer--- via
Will post an example soon. Mike <898...@smartsprout.co.uk> wrote: > > Almost all my exams (being a science teacher) are created using > Groff. > > That sounds really interesting. If it isn't confidential, I'd love to > see a copy of your exam paper to see how it was made and how you create >