Re: words (and commands) that I learnt because of Branden

2022-12-10 Thread Robert Marks
Actually, "horde" and "hoard" are homophones, but one is a noun and the other a verb: "I use to horde definitions" Robert Marks, a colleague of John Quiggin's. -- https://www.agsm.edu.au/bobm <http://www.agsm.edu.au/bobm> 0407665644

Re: using groff/troff in producing academic journals

2022-08-12 Thread Robert Marks
Dear All, I have added two files (a source file sourcepr, and its processed PDF file sourcepr-3.pdf) in the directory https://www.agsm.edu.au/bobm/groff/ This is a slideshow for a presentation; it uses eqn, grap, and tbl, with some unusual fonts for display. Enjoy, Robert Marks -- https

Re: using groff/troff in producing academic journals

2022-08-10 Thread Robert Marks
drop cap macro, and I use Goudy and a Zapf Dingbats font character, but everything else should work. In particular, all the eqn expressions (in Times). The output is for a B5 sized page. I did not use refer, but did the references by hand. Robert Marks -- https://www.agsm.edu.au/bobm <h

Re: using groff/troff in producing academic journals

2022-08-09 Thread Robert Marks
). See the paper, Basil Hiley. The Moyal-Dirac controversy revisited. <https://royalsoc.org.au/images/pdf/journal/154-2-Hiley.pdf> Journal & Proceedings of the Royal Society of New South Wales *154*: 139-160, 2021 at https://royalsoc.org.au/images/pdf/journal/154-2-Hiley.pdf Robert Marks

Re: groff Digest, Vol 214, Issue 11

2022-08-05 Thread Robert Marks
In the 1980s the Australian Journal of Management was produced using troff/nroff. Under a new editor it moved to Microsoft Word. Robert Marks On Sat, 6 Aug 2022 at 2:16 am, groff-requ...@gnu.org wrote: > Send groff mailing list submissions to > groff@gnu.org > > To

Problems with number registers

2022-01-10 Thread Robert Marks
After some years, I have returned to groff macros. I'm trying to write to code, using number registers. But I'm having problems. .tm .v = \n(.v .tm .s = \n(.s work OK: .v = 12000 .s = 10 but then .nr a 1 .nr a +1 .tm a = \na .nr aa 17 .tm aa = \n(aa give zeros: a = 0 aa = 0 Any advice grate

[groff] Compilation of 1.22.3 doesn't work properly

2018-01-07 Thread Robert Marks
Dear All, I have twice downloaded 1.22.3 and compiled it, following the INSTALL instructions. Seems to compile correctly. Then I install it. Then try to process a file (which works fine on another Mac Book Air of mine). I get the following error messages on processing (which fails): My question

[Groff] Vietnamese letters with two diacriticals.

2016-12-20 Thread Robert Marks
I have used two Unicode characters, u1EA5 and u1EC7 in a groff document, but get messages (for the first: warning: can't find special character `u0065_0323_0302' and warning: can't find special character `u0061_0302_0301' for the second. These special characters seem correct since the two chara

[Groff] Colors with gropdf

2016-11-24 Thread Robert Marks
I have recently had to embed a PDF image in a groff document and so have been using groff -Tpdf to do so. But I find that my \m[red] etc color commands are not recognised (and there are error messages.. Some work on Google led me to the Ubuntu gropdf manual, which states: The default color for

Re: [Groff] License for files with ?ideal? parts

2014-09-17 Thread Robert Marks
> >Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 16:05:24 -0400 > >From: "James K. Lowden" >To: groff@gnu.org > >Subject: Re: [Groff] License for files with ?ideal? parts > >Message-ID: <20140916160524.8e7a9aa5.jklow...@schemamania.org> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > > >On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 18:42:23

Re: [Groff] bold greek e.g. sigma ?

2014-06-03 Thread Robert Marks
>Is it possible to have bold greek letters? >Simply using >.EQ >bold sigma >.EN >doesn't seem to work. >Please advise >Thanks >Anton > Anton Shterenlikht I had this issue when creating overhead slides in PDF for my lectures see http://www.agsm.edu.au/bobm/teaching/SGTM/lect10pr-3.pdf This is

Re: [Groff] Back to the future

2014-03-06 Thread Robert Marks
May I make a plea for the use of or somesuch in HTML documents? It was one of the first HTML commands I learnt back in 1996 when I started HTML coding. (Some -- my kids -- would say that my HTML coding remains stuck in 1996, BTW.) Please, some margins in HTML pages such as http://www.catb.org/

[Groff] Re: Back to the future

2014-03-04 Thread Robert Marks
up on the web, embedded in simple HTML pages. Robert Marks -- http://www.agsm.edu.au/bobm

Re: [Groff] Groff Digest, Vol 106, Issue 3

2013-07-27 Thread Robert Marks
So, how is neatroff pronounced? Neet-roff? Nia-troff? Nia-T-roff? Actually, how is troff pronounced? Troff? T-roff? And groff? Hardly G-roff but possible. Inquiring minds want to know. Robert Marks My web page is http://www.agsm.edu.au/bobm On 28/07/2013, at 2:01 AM, wrote: > Send Gr

Re: [Groff] the groff wiki pages

2012-06-01 Thread Robert Marks
ki is valuable. Robert Marks On 2 June 2012 02:01, wrote: > Send Groff mailing list submissions to >        groff@gnu.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >        https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/groff > or, via email, send a message with su

[Groff] MM macros documentation

2012-04-21 Thread Robert Marks
prehensive Documentation - Comes complete with over extensive documentation." Robert Marks -- http://www.agsm.edu.au/bobm

[Groff] Re: html-mm stuff

2010-01-01 Thread Robert Marks
kups. I'm sure other mm users will be grateful for the work. Robert Marks -- Robert MARKS, Economics/ALL/AGSM Bldg, ASB, UNSW SYDNEY, NSW 2052, Australia My Global Financial Crisis timeline at http://www.agsm.edu.au/bobm/iows/timeline.pdf Home page:http://

[Groff] Apple says the eqn miscompile in 1.19.2 had already been reported ...

2008-10-02 Thread Robert Marks
* THE INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THIS MESSAGE IS UNDER NON-DISCLOSURE * -- Robert MARKS, Economics/ALL/AGSM Bldg, ASB, UNSW SYDNEY, NSW 2052, Australia Home page:http

Re: [Groff] eqn troubles

2008-10-02 Thread Robert Marks
search could answer that. >That should be an easy part. > >I think that even filing a report with sample inputs from this thread >and the output one gets on Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard) should be a good >amount of information for Apple to work on. > > Zvezdan > -- Rober

[Groff] Re: groff bug - eqn

2008-07-14 Thread Robert Marks
mment? > >I can't since I don't have a Mac. However, I've forwarded this mail >to the groff mailing list -- some users have experienced similar >problems and might help you, IIRC. > >> What is the best source to find and download v1.19.1? > >Sources can be fou

[Groff] Re: troff to LaTeX translator

2008-05-11 Thread Robert Marks
urnals won't accept PDF files >as an original. > >To date I have been using a mechanical troff to latex translator, and >while that works surprisingly well for most of the text, there are many >things that need fixing. For example, any number registers set in troff >are l

[Groff] Different eqn fonts in-line versus displayed.

2008-03-16 Thread Robert Marks
gfont GOI fixed things, but why the inconsistency between in-line and displayed eqn expressions? Bob -- Robert MARKS, Economics/AGSM Bldg, ASB, UNSW SYDNEY, NSW 2052, Australia Home page:<http://www.agsm.edu.au/~bobm>

Re: [Groff] computer modern fonts in EQN with Tps?

2008-03-14 Thread Robert Marks
lly, this raises another issue: I use Helvetica Bold for gfont but Goudy Sans for grfont, but Helvetica is perhaps 10% larger than other fonts of the same point size. In TeX there is a scaling adjustment that can be used to match the sizes. Is there an equivalent in groff? Bob Marks -- Robe

Re: [Groff] Eqn trouble in 1.19.2 on a new Mac Pro

2008-02-06 Thread Robert Marks
to a problem mentioned here three years ago about a bug in gcc on the Mac, but recompiling work. How to tell Apple that they're distributing a bugged version of eqn? Bob > > >Robert Marks wrote: > >> Never seen anything like this -- suggestions? >> >> Input file

[Groff] Eqn trouble in 1.19.2 on a new Mac Pro

2008-02-03 Thread Robert Marks
ot; Startup file for eqn. .EQ .nr 0C \n(.C .cp 0 .ds 10 .cp \n(0C .lf 63 .EN .lf 1 testeq The quick brown fox .EQ .nr 0C \n(.C .cp 0 .ds 10 eqn:testeq:4: syntax error .cp \n(0C .lf 5 .EN context is >>> e <<< Help! Thanks, Bob Marks -- Robert MARKS, Economics/AGSM, ASB, UNSW SYDNEY, NSW 2052, Australia Home page:<http://www.agsm.edu.au/~bobm>

Re: [Groff] RE: Small bug in groff 1.19.2 footnote number control

2007-09-17 Thread Robert Marks
.sp .ne 3 .ft 3 Submissions .ft 1 .RL .nr li*cnt!\n[li*lvl] \ng .LI This was definitely different in the DWB mm, but I can't remember now how I did it then. Note that I do not amend the macros: this occurs in my document, but relies on an undocumented register in mgm. Robert Marks -- Robert MARKS, Australian Graduate School of Management, Australian School of Business, UNSW SYDNEY, NSW 2052, Australia Home page:<http://www.agsm.edu.au/~bobm>

[Groff] Re: Refer and Journals

2007-03-15 Thread Robert Marks
: References and the refer Preprocessor The UNIX Text Processing System, http://www.agsm.edu.au/~bobm/groff/refer-chapter.pdf Bob Marks -- Robert MARKS, Australian Graduate School of Management, Faculty of Business, UNSW SYDNEY, NSW 2052, Australia Home page:<h

[Groff] Coloured equations?

2007-02-04 Thread Robert Marks
I'd like to have all eqn terms appear in a single colour. gfont chooses the eqn font, but there appears no easy way to have all en terms appear in a specific colour. Any suggestions? Thanks, Bob -- Robert MARKS, Australian Graduate School of Management, UNSW SYDNEY, NSW

Re: [Groff] Kerning with a newly installed font?

2006-08-02 Thread Robert Marks
;ve installed in devps. So I thought I could just >> copy the kerning details from the ZCMI file and drop them into the >> ESS file, just before "charset", and properly headed with >> "kernpairs". > >Are the glyph names identical in the AFM file? Only then i

[Groff] Kerning with a newly installed font?

2006-08-01 Thread Robert Marks
efore "charset", and properly headed with "kernpairs". So I did that, but can see no difference in the printed (or PDF) output. Is this possible to achive? Have I missed something? Robert Marks -- Robert MARKS, Australian Graduate School of Management, UNSW SYDNEY,

[Groff] Survey on Document Creation Software

2006-05-01 Thread Robert Marks
groff/troff/nroff is languishing even against KOffice and GNOME Office (AbiWord etc), at only 2% (37 votes). We're not going to knock off TeX, but surely readers of this list are more numerous than that! Go to http://www.cups.org/ to vote for your favourite. -- Robert MARKS, Austr

[Groff] "domination of the capable by the challenged"

2006-04-21 Thread Robert Marks
Google shows precisely zero pages with this phrase. Ergo, take a bow, Ted. -- Robert MARKS, Australian Graduate School of Management, UNSW SYDNEY, NSW 2052, Australia Home page:<http://www.agsm.edu.au/~bobm> Disclaimer: http://www.agsm.edu.au/email_disclaime

[Groff] Survey on document-creation software.

2006-04-18 Thread Robert Marks
Go to the CUPS home page to participate in a survey about which software you use most to create your documents: at http://www.cups.org/index.php Bob Marks -- Robert MARKS, Australian Graduate School of Management, UNSW SYDNEY, NSW 2052, Australia Home page:<h

Re: [Groff] Using a Bold Italic font in geqn

2006-03-30 Thread Robert Marks
he same, namely to use `lgreekmap' to get the right >groff glyph names. > > > Werner > OK -- success using Werner's suggestion (although using symbolchars instead of lgreekmap, in order to capture the Upper Case Greek letters missing from lgreekmap), and using the .special comm

[Groff] Using a Bold Italic font in geqn

2006-03-29 Thread Robert Marks
anks, Bob -- Robert MARKS, Australian Graduate School of Management, UNSW SYDNEY, NSW 2052, Australia Home page:<http://www.agsm.edu.au/~bobm> Disclaimer: http://www.agsm.edu.au/email_disclaimer.html ___ Groff mailing list Gr

[Groff] Missing characters/glyphs in a font

2006-03-16 Thread Robert Marks
trouble of making a German font without including an umlaut or umlauted vowels, or the German ss?) (Yes, I know I can make hybrid umlauted letters by overstriking, as we used to do in troff.) Thanks for the previous help, Robert Marks -- Robert MARKS, Australian Graduate School of

[Groff] Looping and printing indices in groff

2006-03-13 Thread Robert Marks
Having installed a new font, I now want to print all characters. I thought of having a loop: for i=1 to 350 do X "i" "\N'i'" X But this won't work, of course. How can I do such a thing? Thanks, Bob -- Robert MARKS, Australian Graduate School of Management,

RE: [Groff] Adding fonts to groff -- instructions?

2006-03-13 Thread Robert Marks
> >10. Edit /usr/share/groff/font/devps/DESC as follows: > >a) increment the font-count by 1 (the number immediately after > "fonts" in the line starting "fonts"); >b) append the fontfile-name XIPA10 to the list of fonts in the > same li

[Groff] Adding fonts to groff -- instructions?

2006-03-10 Thread Robert Marks
cific. Are there any more general instructions? Have I missed some? Thanks, Bob -- Robert MARKS, Australian Graduate School of Management, UNSW SYDNEY, NSW 2052, Australia Home page:<http://www.agsm.edu.au/~bobm> Disclaimer: http://www.agsm.edu.au/email_disc

[Groff] Help: male and female symbols?

2006-02-24 Thread Robert Marks
Does any of the fonts in the standard distributions of groff contain characters depicting the standard male and female symbols? (The circle with the oblique arrow above, and the circle with the cross below.) Inquiring minds would like to know. Thanks -- Robert MARKS, Australian Graduate School

Re: [Groff] Colors, PowerPoint and PDFs

2005-10-24 Thread Robert Marks
Dear Gabriel, I believe the gpresent web site says that groff is required -- the old troff just doesn't do it (for instance, with color). Yup: "Requirements groff (version 1.18.1 dated Oct 3, 2002 or higher/later) with the mm macros (included with groff) -- groff.ffii.org perl (version 5.x) for pre

Re: [Groff] Colors, PowerPoint and PDFs

2005-10-20 Thread Robert Marks
;.tl 'Agent-Based Market Design'7 July 2005'page \\nP' .\"Agent-Based Market Design 7 July 2005 Page \\nP .br \l'\\n[.l]u'\h'-\\n[.l]u' .br .ti '''%' .. .EQ delim `` define CO2 # roman {CO sub 2} # define SO2 # roman {SO

[Groff] Using groff as one's main WP/TP

2005-10-20 Thread Robert Marks
s, and class overheads (with the mpresent package). I've been using *roff since the days of nroff and daisywheel printers, i.e., 1978. Am I alone? Robert Marks -- Robert MARKS, Australian Graduate School of Management, UNSW SYDNEY, NSW 2052, Australia Home page:<http://w

[Groff] Converting groff input to LaTex input?

2005-10-05 Thread Robert Marks
Is there an easy way to convert groff input (using the mm macros, in my case) to LaTex input? I'm aware of tr2latex, but it's now 13 years old, and pre-groff. (Moreover, it crashes my Mac OS Tiger.) Thanks, Bob Marks -- Robert MARKS, Australian Graduate School of

[Groff] Re: Extending GNU PIC to include animation

2005-03-12 Thread Robert Marks
ur programs with graphics. >> >> http://cm.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/cstr/132.ps.gz >> >> Cheers, >> >> >> Ralph. > >Wonderful! > >Is the code for the programs mentioned in the document >(movie, stills etc.) available somewhere? > >- Manas Lah