Re: Would it be reasonable to list the fonts that are available by default in groff?

2021-07-17 Thread G. Branden Robinson
At 2021-07-16T22:31:56-0400, Douglas McIlroy wrote: > I am still not enlightened. As far as I know, neither install-font.sh > nor fontforge are present, documented, or referenced in the groff > distribution. fontforge will be mentioned in the grops(1) man page of groff 1.23.0. If we can ever get

Re: Fwd: Would it be reasonable to list the fonts that are available by default in groff?

2021-07-17 Thread G. Branden Robinson
At 2021-07-17T01:55:02-0400, T. Kurt Bond wrote: > Yes, "sudo install-font.sh " is simpler, as long as you know > how to answer the prompts! I should have started there in my > explanation. I guess the fact that I run the script potentially > multiple times on multiple different computers makes m

Re: Fwd: Would it be reasonable to list the fonts that are available by default in groff?

2021-07-16 Thread T. Kurt Bond
Yes, "sudo install-font.sh " is simpler, as long as you know how to answer the prompts! I should have started there in my explanation. I guess the fact that I run the script potentially multiple times on multiple different computers makes my usage more complicated. I'll have to read the source o

Re: Fwd: Would it be reasonable to list the fonts that are available by default in groff?

2021-07-16 Thread Peter Schaffter
Kurt, thanks for saving me having to explain why groff doesn't know anything about install-font.sh and fontforge. Doug, I hope you see this. On Sat, Jul 17, 2021, T. Kurt Bond wrote: > In the meantime, if you want to install fonts in OpenType or TrueType > formats for use with devps and devpdf, i

Fwd: Would it be reasonable to list the fonts that are available by default in groff?

2021-07-16 Thread T. Kurt Bond
Drats, I forgot to hit reply all, and my reply didn't get sent to the groff mailing list. Sigh. Here you go. -- Forwarded message - From: T. Kurt Bond Date: Sat, Jul 17, 2021 at 12:08 AM Subject: Re: Would it be reasonable to list the fonts that are available by defau

Re: Would it be reasonable to list the fonts that are available by default in groff?

2021-07-16 Thread Douglas McIlroy
>> I'm generally an intrepid groff user, but not when it comes to font >> installation. Anything that demystifies the process will win my applause. > Despite the vagaries of directory locations, once you understand what > install-font.sh wants and fontforge is installed install-font.sh is > relati

Re: Would it be reasonable to list the fonts that are available by default in groff?

2021-07-15 Thread T. Kurt Bond
So, on my Fedora 33 box at home, with both of the packages groff-base (the default install, just for man pages, I think?) and groff (the rest of groff) installed, /usr/share/groff does not contain a site-font. On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 8:15 PM T. Kurt Bond wrote: > On Thu, 15 Jul 2021 16:58:41 -04

Re: Would it be reasonable to list the fonts that are available by default in groff?

2021-07-15 Thread Dave Kemper
On 7/15/21, G. Branden Robinson wrote: > What I think we need is to absorb Peter's font installer into groff, > give it a man page, make sure it works for a preponderance of expected > scenarios, and so forth. I'd do it, but I haven't had the spoons. And you already have a huge number of spoons

Re: Would it be reasonable to list the fonts that are available by default in groff?

2021-07-15 Thread T . Kurt Bond
On Thu, 15 Jul 2021 19:16:50 -0400, Douglas McIlroy wrote: > I'm generally an intrepid groff user, but not when it comes to font > installation. Anything that demystifies the process will win my applause. > > Doug Despite the vagaries of directory locations, once you understand what install-font

Re: Would it be reasonable to list the fonts that are available by default in groff?

2021-07-15 Thread T . Kurt Bond
On Thu, 15 Jul 2021 16:58:41 -0400, Wim Stockman wrote: > Using the site-font directory so you don't need root access. So, whether or not the site-font directory is owned by root, or even exists, is inconsistent. (This also makes it difficult to find automatically for scripts.) For instance, on

Re: Would it be reasonable to list the fonts that are available by default in groff?

2021-07-15 Thread Douglas McIlroy
> We could basically write a macro that installs on the fly a system > available font for groff. Using the possibility to run an external script > from within groff I m sure it is possible to install the font on the fly. > Running Peter font-install script. Using the site-font directory so you > do

Re: Would it be reasonable to list the fonts that are available by default in groff?

2021-07-15 Thread G. Branden Robinson
At 2021-07-15T22:58:41+0200, Wim Stockman wrote: > Actually I don't think that is necessary. We could basically write a > macro that installs on the fly a system available font for groff. > Using the possibility to run an external script from within groff I m > sure it is possible to install the f

Re: Would it be reasonable to list the fonts that are available by default in groff?

2021-07-15 Thread Wim Stockman
Actually I don't think that is necessary. We could basically write a macro that installs on the fly a system available font for groff. Using the possibility to run an external script from within groff I m sure it is possible to install the font on the fly. Running Peter font-install script. Using t

Re: Would it be reasonable to list the fonts that are available by default in groff?

2021-07-15 Thread G. Branden Robinson
Wherein I illustrate how well I can count... At 2021-07-16T04:24:29+1000, G. Branden Robinson wrote: > Given the coupling between output device and font repertoire, I submit > that the most appropriate place to document the available repertoire > is in the man page for the relevant output driver.

Re: Would it be reasonable to list the fonts that are available by default in groff?

2021-07-15 Thread G. Branden Robinson
At 2021-07-15T12:10:05-0400, T. Kurt Bond wrote: > Perhaps in groff_font(5) and in groff.texi? Thanks for raising this point; it is a poorly understood one. And that likely means we don't document it well enough. The available font repertoire is specific to each output device, so groff_font(5) o

Would it be reasonable to list the fonts that are available by default in groff?

2021-07-15 Thread T. Kurt Bond
Perhaps in groff_font(5) and in groff.texi? -- T. Kurt Bond, tkurtb...@gmail.com, https://tkurtbond.github.io