Re: using groff/troff in producing academic journals

2022-08-13 Thread DJ Chase
On Sat Aug 13, 2022 at 4:25 PM EDT, James K. Lowden wrote: > On Thu, 11 Aug 2022 12:31:51 +1000 (AEST) > Damian McGuckin wrote: > > On Wed, 10 Aug 2022, Larry McVoy wrote: > > > I emailed ra...@inputplus.co.uk who owns troff.org to see if he > > > wanted to host papers. troff.org looks pretty

Re: using groff/troff in producing academic journals

2022-08-13 Thread James K. Lowden
On Thu, 11 Aug 2022 12:31:51 +1000 (AEST) Damian McGuckin wrote: > On Wed, 10 Aug 2022, Larry McVoy wrote: > > > I emailed ra...@inputplus.co.uk who owns troff.org to see if he > > wanted to host papers. troff.org looks pretty dead so we shall > > see. If he is still there, that would be a

Re: using groff/troff in producing academic journals

2022-08-12 Thread Thomas Dupond
Robert Marks wrote: > Dear All, > > I have added two files (a source file sourcepr, and its processed PDF file > sourcepr-3.pdf) > in the directory https://www.agsm.edu.au/bobm/groff/ > > This is a slideshow for a presentation; it uses eqn, grap, and tbl, with > some unusual fonts for display.

Re: using groff/troff in producing academic journals

2022-08-12 Thread Robert Marks
Dear All, I have added two files (a source file sourcepr, and its processed PDF file sourcepr-3.pdf) in the directory https://www.agsm.edu.au/bobm/groff/ This is a slideshow for a presentation; it uses eqn, grap, and tbl, with some unusual fonts for display. Enjoy, Robert Marks --

Re: using groff/troff in producing academic journals

2022-08-11 Thread Thomas Dupond
Larry McVoy wrote: > On Wed, Aug 10, 2022 at 09:29:29PM -0500, Dave Kemper wrote: > > On 8/10/22, Damian McGuckin wrote: > > > Do we just send them as attachments and let some poor bunny collate them? > > > I do not want to overburden somebody limke Branden. How do we make them > > > available?

Re: using groff/troff in producing academic journals

2022-08-11 Thread hbezemer--- via
Damian McGuckin wrote: > On Wed, 10 Aug 2022, Larry McVoy wrote: > > > Well my papers are copyright sun, sgi, google, bitmover, and there has > > been enough time passed that nobody cares any more. > > Journals have a long memory unfortunately. I think Elsevier are looking to > waive

Re: using groff/troff in producing academic journals

2022-08-11 Thread hbezemer--- via
Thank you Robert! I've downloaded the documents and will look into them. Hans Robert Marks wrote: > Following suggestions from hbeze...@kliksafe.nl and Larry McVoy, > I have put the source file (and the latest PDF output) in a directory, at > https://www.agsm.edu.au/bobm/groff/ > > There are

Re: using groff/troff in producing academic journals

2022-08-10 Thread G. Branden Robinson
At 2022-08-11T12:31:51+1000, Damian McGuckin wrote: > I use MM as a macro package. Is that still relevant to enough people? I think so. People pop up out of nowhere from time to time who use it, and groff's implementation is not "deprecated" or anything like that. In fact, recently, I've begun

Re: using groff/troff in producing academic journals

2022-08-10 Thread Damian McGuckin
On Wed, 10 Aug 2022, Larry McVoy wrote: Well my papers are copyright sun, sgi, google, bitmover, and there has been enough time passed that nobody cares any more. Journals have a long memory unfortunately. I think Elsevier are looking to waive copyright on their 40 year old papers and prior

Re: using groff/troff in producing academic journals

2022-08-10 Thread Larry McVoy
On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 12:31:51PM +1000, Damian McGuckin wrote: > On Wed, 10 Aug 2022, Larry McVoy wrote: > > >I emailed ra...@inputplus.co.uk who owns troff.org to see if he wanted > >to host papers. troff.org looks pretty dead so we shall see. If he is > >still there, that would be a great

Re: using groff/troff in producing academic journals

2022-08-10 Thread Larry McVoy
On Wed, Aug 10, 2022 at 09:29:29PM -0500, Dave Kemper wrote: > On 8/10/22, Damian McGuckin wrote: > > Do we just send them as attachments and let some poor bunny collate them? > > I do not want to overburden somebody limke Branden. How do we make them > > available? > > The groff examples

Re: using groff/troff in producing academic journals

2022-08-10 Thread Damian McGuckin
On Wed, 10 Aug 2022, Larry McVoy wrote: I emailed ra...@inputplus.co.uk who owns troff.org to see if he wanted to host papers. troff.org looks pretty dead so we shall see. If he is still there, that would be a great place to host example papers. One issue is that most of my papers are

Re: using groff/troff in producing academic journals

2022-08-10 Thread Dave Kemper
On 8/10/22, Damian McGuckin wrote: > Do we just send them as attachments and let some poor bunny collate them? > I do not want to overburden somebody limke Branden. How do we make them > available? The groff examples repository (http://www.froude.eu/groff/) so far has only snippets showing how

Re: using groff/troff in producing academic journals

2022-08-10 Thread Larry McVoy
I emailed ra...@inputplus.co.uk who owns troff.org to see if he wanted to host papers. troff.org looks pretty dead so we shall see. If he is still there, that would be a great place to host example papers. On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 11:32:24AM +1000, Damian McGuckin wrote: > On Wed, 10 Aug 2022,

Re: using groff/troff in producing academic journals

2022-08-10 Thread Damian McGuckin
On Wed, 10 Aug 2022, Larry McVoy wrote: I'm a big fan of sharing sources to papers done in troff. I've learned a lot from reading those. Do we just send them as attachments and let some poor bunny collate them? I do not want to overburden somebody limke Branden. How do we make them

Re: using groff/troff in producing academic journals

2022-08-10 Thread Robert Marks
Following suggestions from hbeze...@kliksafe.nl and Larry McVoy, I have put the source file (and the latest PDF output) in a directory, at https://www.agsm.edu.au/bobm/groff/ There are some comments to myself, and some std output diagnostics, and I have not included the smart quotes macro or the

Re: using groff/troff in producing academic journals

2022-08-10 Thread Larry McVoy
I'm a big fan of sharing sources to papers done in troff. I've learned a lot from reading those. On Wed, Aug 10, 2022 at 10:22:52AM +0200, hbezemer--- via wrote: > Dear Robert, > > Robert Marks wrote: > > > More recently ??? last year in fact ??? as the Editor I used troff to set > > the > >

Re: using groff/troff in producing academic journals

2022-08-10 Thread hbezemer--- via
Dear Robert, Robert Marks wrote: > More recently ??? last year in fact ??? as the Editor I used troff to set the > text for an especially mathematical paper in the Journal and Proceedings of > the Royal Society of New South Wales (Sydney). See the paper, > Basil Hiley. > The Moyal-Dirac

Re: using groff/troff in producing academic journals

2022-08-09 Thread Robert Marks
As I said earlier, we used nroff/troff to produce the Australian Journal of Management in the 1980s. More recently — last year in fact — as the Editor I used troff to set the text for an especially mathematical paper in the Journal and Proceedings of the Royal Society of New South Wales (Sydney).