Re: [GROW] Working Group Adoption Call: draft-mauch-bgp-reject

2015-11-01 Thread Warren Kumari
On Monday, November 2, 2015, Christopher Morrow < christopher.mor...@gmail.com> wrote: > Howdy Grow folk (again), > Please consider this as the start of a 3wk working group adoption call > for the subject draft who's abstract is: > > "This document defines the default behaviour of a BGP speaker

Re: [GROW] Working Group Adoption Call: draft-mauch-bgp-reject

2015-11-01 Thread Jon Mitchell
> On Nov 2, 2015, at 4:04 PM, Jeffrey Haas wrote: > > >> On Nov 2, 2015, at 3:57 PM, Christopher Morrow >> wrote: >> >> Please read/comment/advise before 11/23/2015 - Nov 23, 2015. > > I support adopting this draft. > > I suggest it be considered for BCP status. Why BCP? Support, agree

Re: [GROW] Working Group Adoption Call: draft-mauch-bgp-reject

2015-11-01 Thread Job Snijders
On Mon, Nov 02, 2015 at 05:57:54PM +1100, Christopher Morrow wrote: > Howdy Grow folk (again), > Please consider this as the start of a 3wk working group adoption call > for the subject draft who's abstract is: > > "This document defines the default behaviour of a BGP speaker when no >explic

Re: [GROW] Working Group Adoption Call: draft-mauch-bgp-reject

2015-11-01 Thread Jeffrey Haas
> On Nov 2, 2015, at 3:57 PM, Christopher Morrow > wrote: > > Howdy Grow folk (again), > Please consider this as the start of a 3wk working group adoption call > for the subject draft who's abstract is: > > "This document defines the default behaviour of a BGP speaker when no > explicit pol

Re: [GROW] IETF94 GROW meeting notes

2015-11-01 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 5:50 PM, Job Snijders wrote: > Notes from the IETF94 GROW meeting in Yokohama, Japan. > > Chairs: Christopher Morrow & Peter Schoenmaker > Jabber: Colin Petrie, Notes: Job Snijders These are uploaded to the tools-site. thanks! -chris

[GROW] Working Group Adoption Call: draft-mauch-bgp-reject

2015-11-01 Thread Christopher Morrow
Howdy Grow folk (again), Please consider this as the start of a 3wk working group adoption call for the subject draft who's abstract is: "This document defines the default behaviour of a BGP speaker when no explicit policy is associated with a BGP peering session." Please read/comment/advise

[GROW] IETF94 GROW meeting notes

2015-11-01 Thread Job Snijders
Notes from the IETF94 GROW meeting in Yokohama, Japan. Chairs: Christopher Morrow & Peter Schoenmaker Jabber: Colin Petrie, Notes: Job Snijders #0 Thomas King - draft-ymbk-grow-blackholing King offers background information on why a standardized blackhole BGP community is useful. Presen

[GROW] Working Group Adoption Call: draft-petrie-grow-mrt-add-paths

2015-11-01 Thread Christopher Morrow
Howdy WG folks, Please consider this the start of a 3 week Adoption call for the noted draft who's abstract is: "This document updates the Multi-threaded Routing Toolkit (MRT) export format for Border Gateway Protocol (BGP) routing information by extending it to support the Advertisement

Re: [GROW] [Idr] draft-mauch-bgp-reject

2015-11-01 Thread Susan Hares
I recommend people read Jared's draft and provide comments on both IDR and Grow. Sue -Original Message- From: Idr [mailto:idr-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jared Mauch Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2015 11:19 PM To: GROW@ietf.org; idr wg list Subject: [Idr] draft-mauch-bgp-reject I plan

[GROW] draft-mauch-bgp-reject

2015-11-01 Thread Jared Mauch
I plan on covering this briefly in the GROW meeting today and uploaded the revised text that has been sitting in my output queue since August. This is basically codifying the fact that you MUST NOT default to "bgp unsafe-ebgp-policyā€¯ for any BGP speaking device. - Jared

Re: [GROW] WGLC: draft-ietf-grow-route-leak-problem-definition (ends: 8/24/2015 - Aug 24)

2015-11-01 Thread joel jaeggli
On 11/2/15 8:39 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote: > oh well, since this conversation got re-ingnited.. > > On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 1:15 AM, Job Snijders wrote: >> I think "type 5: U-Shaped Turn with More Specific Prefix" should be >> removed from the document. >> >> Given the description: >> >> "

Re: [GROW] WG Adoption: draft-ymbk-grow-blackholing (expires: 08/26/2015 - Aug 26)

2015-11-01 Thread Christopher Morrow
howdy! after a long delay this pops out the 'adoption call' chute as 'adopted'. The authors can spin a re-named draft when the gates re-open for draft submission (probably monday?) and we can progress along as we should. thanks for reading the draft, providing comments and support/no-support comme

[GROW] Agenda for today's meeting

2015-11-01 Thread Christopher Morrow
Howdy! For the folk in Yokohama, we posted the agenda yesterday, I think there's only one presenter planned? (Thomas and blackhole community work) If there are others please speak up 'now' (with slides as well please), I probably forgot a presenter and 'search your mail for the right phrase' is fa

Re: [GROW] WGLC: draft-ietf-grow-route-leak-problem-definition (ends: 8/24/2015 - Aug 24)

2015-11-01 Thread Christopher Morrow
oh well, since this conversation got re-ingnited.. On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 1:15 AM, Job Snijders wrote: > I think "type 5: U-Shaped Turn with More Specific Prefix" should be > removed from the document. > > Given the description: > > "A multi-homed AS learns a route from one upstream ISP and

Re: [GROW] WGLC: draft-ietf-grow-route-leak-problem-definition (ends: 8/24/2015 - Aug 24)

2015-11-01 Thread Sriram, Kotikalapudi
>There's seemingly 1 comment set not responded to on-list (job's last), >but overall support seems positive. I have just posted responses to Job's comments. >I'll ship a document shepherd >review northbound post-ietf-meeting week. Thank you. >by then sriram should have an updated revision with

Re: [GROW] WGLC: draft-ietf-grow-route-leak-problem-definition (ends: 8/24/2015 - Aug 24)

2015-11-01 Thread Sriram, Kotikalapudi
Job, Thanks for your comments. My responses below. >I think "type 5: U-Shaped Turn with More Specific Prefix" should be >removed from the document. >Given the description: >"A multi-homed AS learns a route from one upstream ISP and announces >a subprefix (subsumed in the prefix) to another

Re: [GROW] WGLC: draft-ietf-grow-route-leak-problem-definition (ends: 8/24/2015 - Aug 24)

2015-11-01 Thread David Farmer
Thinking about this a bit, I prefer "hairpin turn" over "U-turn". In my mind a "hairpin turn" is talking about a tight turn in a road and by necessity a tight turn for the traffic on the road, the road itself turns back on itself. Where as a "U-turn" talks about a tight turn traffic makes on r

Re: [GROW] WGLC: draft-ietf-grow-route-leak-problem-definition (ends: 8/24/2015 - Aug 24)

2015-11-01 Thread George, Wes
I just went hunting for an instance of this in IETF land, and only found references related to two hosts talking to one another from behind the same NAT. So, I went hunting on the internet, and everywhere I saw an explanation, it was of the variant "going out the same interface it came in on" and u