Re: [GROW] Handling of LAGs in Mitigating Negative Impact of Maintenance through BGP Session Culling

2018-01-18 Thread Randy Bush
>> really do not want to get drawn into this. but while looking into lags >> a few years back, we found a lot of them split across line cards, with >> resilience to line card failure being the stated reason. > > even in fixed configuration 1 and 2ru switches you may split them across > asics for

Re: [GROW] Opsdir last call review of draft-ietf-grow-bgp-gshut-13

2018-01-18 Thread heasley
Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 11:10:38AM -0500, Jay Borkenhagen: > [resend - apologies for any dupes] > > Distro cut *way* down. > > Regarding the suggestion for "logging knobs": > > - if it's just logging that a gshut action was taken, that's a local > implementation decision -- no need to mention it

Re: [GROW] Opsdir last call review of draft-ietf-grow-bgp-gshut-13

2018-01-18 Thread Jay Borkenhagen
Distro cut *way* down. Regarding the suggestion for "logging knobs": - if it's just logging that a gshut action was taken, that's a local implementation decision -- no need to mention it in the draft. - if it's "Possibly raising alarms when something seems wrong", that would be a bad idea.

Re: [GROW] Opsdir last call review of draft-ietf-grow-bgp-gshut-13

2018-01-18 Thread Jay Borkenhagen
[resend - apologies for any dupes] Distro cut *way* down. Regarding the suggestion for "logging knobs": - if it's just logging that a gshut action was taken, that's a local implementation decision -- no need to mention it in the draft. - if it's "Possibly raising alarms when something seems w

Re: [GROW] Opsdir last call review of draft-ietf-grow-bgp-gshut-13

2018-01-18 Thread bruno.decraene
OK, Thanks Susan. --Bruno > -Original Message- > From: Susan Hares [mailto:sha...@ndzh.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 12:25 PM > To: DECRAENE Bruno IMT/OLN > Cc: grow@ietf.org; draft-ietf-grow-bgp-gshut@ietf.org; i...@ietf.org; > ops-...@ietf.org > Subject: RE: Opsdir

Re: [GROW] Opsdir last call review of draft-ietf-grow-bgp-gshut-13

2018-01-18 Thread Susan Hares
Bruno: I'm sorry I'm this late for the review. On the editorial nit, if you think it helps - send it to the RFC editor. On the logging knobs, you understood my point. Logs should cover what is section 4.2. However, since the document is in the RFC editor's queue - it is your choice. If

Re: [GROW] Opsdir last call review of draft-ietf-grow-bgp-gshut-13

2018-01-18 Thread bruno.decraene
Hi Susan, Thanks for your time reviewing this document and you below comments. Please see my replies inline [Bruno] Note that however fast I'm answering to your review, that document is now in RFC editor queue, and hence technical changes are much more difficult. (AFAIK, would require specific

[GROW] Opsdir last call review of draft-ietf-grow-bgp-gshut-13

2018-01-18 Thread Susan Hares
Reviewer: Susan Hares Review result: Has Nits Status: Nits The operational procedures described in this process for the gshut comment are accurately covered, and SHOULD work well. The Appendices A-C add to an operations document and should be retained for publication. Technical nit: location of