Re: [GROW] Question about BGP Large Communities

2020-02-04 Thread Jakob Heitz (jheitz)
Private ASNs are 4,200,000,000 upwards. I am requesting a block just below that > 4,000,000,000. Regards, Jakob. From: Brian Dickson Sent: Tuesday, February 4, 2020 5:43 PM To: Sriram, Kotikalapudi (Fed) Cc: John Heasly ; Jakob Heitz (jheitz) ; i...@ietf.org; grow@ietf.org Subject: Re: Questio

Re: [GROW] Question about BGP Large Communities

2020-02-04 Thread Brian Dickson
Disagree, we want something deployed (large) and deployable (requiring only IANA action, no vendor activity) immediately. IMHO, any special handling or new code points or upgrades are non-starters. This particularly applies to wide and extended Brian On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 5:41 PM Dongjie (Jimmy)

Re: [GROW] Question about BGP Large Communities

2020-02-04 Thread Jakob Heitz (jheitz)
I'm asking for 67 million AS numbers, after which there will still be over 4 billion AS numbers, not including the nearly 95 million private AS numbers. That's not much more than your 1024. Regards, Jakob. -Original Message- From: Sriram, Kotikalapudi (Fed) Sent: Tuesday, February 4, 2

Re: [GROW] Question about BGP Large Communities

2020-02-04 Thread Brian Dickson
On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 5:28 PM Sriram, Kotikalapudi (Fed) < kotikalapudi.sri...@nist.gov> wrote: > > > Does anyone want to co-author and suggest changes? > I would also be glad to participate in that effort. > > I have looked at the proposals in the two drafts (Jacob and John H). > There are a few

Re: [GROW] Question about BGP Large Communities

2020-02-04 Thread Dongjie (Jimmy)
Agree that for this case it may be more convenient to just use extended community with a new type, this could avoid any possible collision with existing deployments, and save the effort of assigning a set of ASNs. Wide community may be too powerful for this:) Best regards, Jie From: Robert Ras

Re: [GROW] Question about BGP Large Communities

2020-02-04 Thread Sriram, Kotikalapudi (Fed)
> > Does anyone want to co-author and suggest changes? I would also be glad to participate in that effort. I have looked at the proposals in the two drafts (Jacob and John H). There are a few observations I would like to share. As Alvaro pointed out, RFC 8092 says: This document defines the

Re: [GROW] Question about BGP Large Communities

2020-02-04 Thread Brian Dickson
Hi, Jakob, I'm interested/willing to co-author and/or review as needed. (FYI: it looks like your bit field is mis-aligned, there should be 6 bits above the 2-bit T value, then 8 bits of WKC.) I agree that 256 (0-255) is more than enough WKC values, given that like 3 or 4 have been used in old comm

Re: [GROW] Question about BGP Large Communities

2020-02-04 Thread John Heasly
Tue, Feb 04, 2020 at 08:45:40PM +, Jakob Heitz (jheitz): > A set of well known large communities could be useful. > I have a draft that I never submitted attached to this email. > Does anyone want to co-author and suggest changes? Hey Jacob, I'd work on that with you. Job, Morrow and I also s

Re: [GROW] Question about BGP Large Communities

2020-02-04 Thread Robert Raszuk
> How would you divide the numbers? I would not divide them at all in LCs. I would either define new type in extended communities or use wide communities. But I am a bit biased here ;-) Best, R, On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 11:34 PM Jakob Heitz (jheitz) wrote: > The numbers are a trade off. How wou

Re: [GROW] Question about BGP Large Communities

2020-02-04 Thread Jakob Heitz (jheitz)
The numbers are a trade off. How would you divide the numbers? Thanks, Jakob. On Feb 4, 2020, at 2:19 PM, Robert Raszuk wrote:  And you think 255 such known large communities will be sufficient ? Thx, R. On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 9:45 PM Jakob Heitz (jheitz) mailto:jhe...@cisco.com>> wrote: A

Re: [GROW] Question about BGP Large Communities

2020-02-04 Thread Robert Raszuk
And you think 255 such known large communities will be sufficient ? Thx, R. On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 9:45 PM Jakob Heitz (jheitz) wrote: > A set of well known large communities could be useful. > > I have a draft that I never submitted attached to this email. > > Does anyone want to co-author and

Re: [GROW] Question about BGP Large Communities

2020-02-04 Thread Jakob Heitz (jheitz)
A set of well known large communities could be useful. I have a draft that I never submitted attached to this email. Does anyone want to co-author and suggest changes? Regards, Jakob. From: Sriram, Kotikalapudi (Fed) Sent: Tuesday, February 4, 2020 10:22 AM To: Jakob Heitz (jheitz) ; Job Snijder

Re: [GROW] [Idr] Question about BGP Large Communities

2020-02-04 Thread Robert Raszuk
Hi Sriram, Just to add to what Alvaro said what you are looking for seems to be a new type for the information required. Large Communities are really unstructured from the perspective of types like Extended Communities are. But please observe that proposed Wide Communities do have support for ty

Re: [GROW] Question about BGP Large Communities

2020-02-04 Thread Alvaro Retana
On February 4, 2020 at 1:22:11 PM, Sriram, Kotikalapudi (Fed) wrote: [Speaking as a WG participant.] Sriram: Hi! ... > Question: > > Can the draft simply make an IANA request for > a Global Administrator ASN value for Route Leaks Protection (RLP) type > and request that it be published in IAN

[GROW] Question about BGP Large Communities

2020-02-04 Thread Sriram, Kotikalapudi (Fed)
In the route leaks solution draft, https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-grow-route-leak-detection-mitigation-02 we (the authors) have proposed using BGP Large Community. We specify this to be a "well-known transitive Large Community". Question: Can the draft simply make an IANA request for