Re: [GROW] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-grow-large-communities-usage-06

2017-05-01 Thread joel jaeggli
On 4/19/17 1:52 AM, Stewart Bryant wrote: > > > On 19/04/2017 02:06, Randy Bush wrote: 5. Security Considerations Operators should note the recommendations in Section 11 of BGP Operations and Security [RFC7454]. SB> You do not address the question of whether

Re: [GROW] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-grow-large-communities-usage-06

2017-04-19 Thread Job Snijders
On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 03:54:06PM +0100, Stewart Bryant wrote: > Thanks > > I think I have done the required Genart level of due diligence on > Security. Much appreciated, stay tuned for an updated version which incorporates your feedback. Kind regards, Job ___

Re: [GROW] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-grow-large-communities-usage-06

2017-04-19 Thread Stewart Bryant
Thanks I think I have done the required Genart level of due diligence on Security. Stewart On 19/04/2017 15:18, Job Snijders wrote: On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 09:46:53AM +0100, Stewart Bryant wrote: Operations and Security [RFC7454]. SB> You do not address the question of whether there are

Re: [GROW] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-grow-large-communities-usage-06

2017-04-19 Thread Job Snijders
On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 09:46:53AM +0100, Stewart Bryant wrote: > > > Operations and Security [RFC7454]. > > > > > > SB> You do not address the question of whether there are new > > > SB> considerations, or considerations that are of increased importance? > > > > It is my understanding that R

Re: [GROW] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-grow-large-communities-usage-06

2017-04-19 Thread Randy Bush
> I was wondering if there was more scope to make mischief at a distance > in a less less obvious way than before. there isn't but where were you when the blackhole community was passed? > So you rely on the nodes that receive these community strings to > interpret them in a common way. no. as

Re: [GROW] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-grow-large-communities-usage-06

2017-04-19 Thread Nick Hilliard
Stewart Bryant wrote: > Guessing is horrible, but if that is what you do, that is what you do, > and if the risks are the accepted norm in the BGP > community I am fine. there's a general understanding out there that if you're directly connect to $asn, you can somewhat believe $asn:* or $asn:*:* c

Re: [GROW] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-grow-large-communities-usage-06

2017-04-19 Thread Randy Bush
>> you're supposed to guess >> >> the normal hack here is >> >>this document introduces no new security issues beyond those discussed >>in 1997 > > Guessing is horrible, but if that is what you do, that is what you do, > and if the risks are the accepted norm in the BGP community I am fi

Re: [GROW] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-grow-large-communities-usage-06

2017-04-19 Thread Stewart Bryant
On 19/04/2017 02:06, Randy Bush wrote: 5. Security Considerations Operators should note the recommendations in Section 11 of BGP Operations and Security [RFC7454]. SB> You do not address the question of whether there are new SB> considerations, or considerations that are of increased

Re: [GROW] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-grow-large-communities-usage-06

2017-04-19 Thread Stewart Bryant
On 19/04/2017 00:58, Job Snijders wrote: 5. Security Considerations Operators should note the recommendations in Section 11 of BGP Operations and Security [RFC7454]. SB> You do not address the question of whether there are new SB> considerations, or considerations tha

Re: [GROW] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-grow-large-communities-usage-06

2017-04-18 Thread Randy Bush
>> 5. Security Considerations >> >>Operators should note the recommendations in Section 11 of BGP >>Operations and Security [RFC7454]. >> >> SB> You do not address the question of whether there are new >> SB> considerations, or considerations that are of increased importance? > > It is

Re: [GROW] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-grow-large-communities-usage-06

2017-04-18 Thread Job Snijders
Hi Bryant, Thank you for taking the time to go through the document. On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 06:41:15AM -0700, Stewart Bryant wrote: > Please treat these comments just like any other last call comments. > > SB> Even if you just copy the Introduction, the Abstract should > SB> really be expanded

Re: [GROW] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-grow-large-communities-usage-06

2017-04-18 Thread heasley
Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 06:41:15AM -0700, Stewart Bryant: > 5. Security Considerations > >Operators should note the recommendations in Section 11 of BGP >Operations and Security [RFC7454]. > > SB> You do not address the question of whether there are new > considerations, or considerations >

[GROW] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-grow-large-communities-usage-06

2017-04-18 Thread Stewart Bryant
Reviewer: Stewart Bryant Review result: Almost Ready I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. The General Area Review Team (Gen-ART) reviews all IETF documents being processed by the IESG for the IETF Chair. Please treat these comments just like any other last call comments. For more i