Re: [GROW] Question about BGP Large Communities

2020-02-06 Thread Sriram, Kotikalapudi (Fed)
Jakob, >Private ASNs are 4,200,000,000 upwards. >I am requesting a block just below that > 4,000,000,000. That sounds reasonable. We can discuss trading off some bits between WKLC ID and Data 1 to possibly give room for more than 256 WKLCs. Sriram _

Re: [GROW] Question about BGP Large Communities

2020-02-06 Thread Dongjie (Jimmy)
9 AM > To: John Heasly ; Jakob Heitz (jheitz) > Cc: i...@ietf.org; grow@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [GROW] Question about BGP Large Communities > > > > Does anyone want to co-author and suggest changes? > I would also be glad to participate in that effort. > > I have looked

Re: [GROW] Question about BGP Large Communities

2020-02-05 Thread Nick Hilliard
Zhuangshunwan wrote on 05/02/2020 09:00: In my opinion, when we apply a new function from IANA, we will have to deploy some extra route policies to set and parse the specific function as your suggested way. With the increase of new functions, the route policies deployed will become more and m

Re: [GROW] Question about BGP Large Communities

2020-02-05 Thread Robert Raszuk
Just to clarify one subtle point. In wide communities types are either operator assigned or IANA driven - no new code from vendor is required in contrast to extended community. That along with variable length is what makes wide communities universal. Sure that some vendors or individuals are scar

Re: [GROW] Question about BGP Large Communities

2020-02-05 Thread Zhuangshunwan
, Shunwan From: GROW [mailto:grow-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Brian Dickson Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2020 9:45 AM To: Dongjie (Jimmy) Cc: i...@ietf.org; grow-cha...@ietf.org; idr-cha...@ietf.org; grow@ietf.org Subject: Re: [GROW] Question about BGP Large Communities Disagree, we want something

Re: [GROW] Question about BGP Large Communities

2020-02-04 Thread Jakob Heitz (jheitz)
Private ASNs are 4,200,000,000 upwards. I am requesting a block just below that > 4,000,000,000. Regards, Jakob. From: Brian Dickson Sent: Tuesday, February 4, 2020 5:43 PM To: Sriram, Kotikalapudi (Fed) Cc: John Heasly ; Jakob Heitz (jheitz) ; i...@ietf.org; grow@ietf.org Subject: Re: Questio

Re: [GROW] Question about BGP Large Communities

2020-02-04 Thread Brian Dickson
rubbery.net>; i...@ietf.org; grow-cha...@ietf.org; > idr-cha...@ietf.org; grow@ietf.org > *Subject:* Re: [GROW] Question about BGP Large Communities > > > > > > > How would you divide the numbers? > > > > I would not divide them at all in LCs. I would either

Re: [GROW] Question about BGP Large Communities

2020-02-04 Thread Jakob Heitz (jheitz)
I'm asking for 67 million AS numbers, after which there will still be over 4 billion AS numbers, not including the nearly 95 million private AS numbers. That's not much more than your 1024. Regards, Jakob. -Original Message- From: Sriram, Kotikalapudi (Fed) Sent: Tuesday, February 4, 2

Re: [GROW] Question about BGP Large Communities

2020-02-04 Thread Brian Dickson
On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 5:28 PM Sriram, Kotikalapudi (Fed) < kotikalapudi.sri...@nist.gov> wrote: > > > Does anyone want to co-author and suggest changes? > I would also be glad to participate in that effort. > > I have looked at the proposals in the two drafts (Jacob and John H). > There are a few

Re: [GROW] Question about BGP Large Communities

2020-02-04 Thread Dongjie (Jimmy)
Raszuk [mailto:rob...@raszuk.net] Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2020 6:38 AM To: Jakob Heitz (jheitz) Cc: Sriram, Kotikalapudi (Fed) ; Job Snijders ; Nick Hilliard ; John Heasly ; i...@ietf.org; grow-cha...@ietf.org; idr-cha...@ietf.org; grow@ietf.org Subject: Re: [GROW] Question about BGP Large

Re: [GROW] Question about BGP Large Communities

2020-02-04 Thread Sriram, Kotikalapudi (Fed)
> > Does anyone want to co-author and suggest changes? I would also be glad to participate in that effort. I have looked at the proposals in the two drafts (Jacob and John H). There are a few observations I would like to share. As Alvaro pointed out, RFC 8092 says: This document defines the

Re: [GROW] Question about BGP Large Communities

2020-02-04 Thread Brian Dickson
Hi, Jakob, I'm interested/willing to co-author and/or review as needed. (FYI: it looks like your bit field is mis-aligned, there should be 6 bits above the 2-bit T value, then 8 bits of WKC.) I agree that 256 (0-255) is more than enough WKC values, given that like 3 or 4 have been used in old comm

Re: [GROW] Question about BGP Large Communities

2020-02-04 Thread John Heasly
Tue, Feb 04, 2020 at 08:45:40PM +, Jakob Heitz (jheitz): > A set of well known large communities could be useful. > I have a draft that I never submitted attached to this email. > Does anyone want to co-author and suggest changes? Hey Jacob, I'd work on that with you. Job, Morrow and I also s

Re: [GROW] Question about BGP Large Communities

2020-02-04 Thread Robert Raszuk
> How would you divide the numbers? I would not divide them at all in LCs. I would either define new type in extended communities or use wide communities. But I am a bit biased here ;-) Best, R, On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 11:34 PM Jakob Heitz (jheitz) wrote: > The numbers are a trade off. How wou

Re: [GROW] Question about BGP Large Communities

2020-02-04 Thread Jakob Heitz (jheitz)
The numbers are a trade off. How would you divide the numbers? Thanks, Jakob. On Feb 4, 2020, at 2:19 PM, Robert Raszuk wrote:  And you think 255 such known large communities will be sufficient ? Thx, R. On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 9:45 PM Jakob Heitz (jheitz) mailto:jhe...@cisco.com>> wrote: A

Re: [GROW] Question about BGP Large Communities

2020-02-04 Thread Robert Raszuk
And you think 255 such known large communities will be sufficient ? Thx, R. On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 9:45 PM Jakob Heitz (jheitz) wrote: > A set of well known large communities could be useful. > > I have a draft that I never submitted attached to this email. > > Does anyone want to co-author and

Re: [GROW] Question about BGP Large Communities

2020-02-04 Thread Jakob Heitz (jheitz)
A set of well known large communities could be useful. I have a draft that I never submitted attached to this email. Does anyone want to co-author and suggest changes? Regards, Jakob. From: Sriram, Kotikalapudi (Fed) Sent: Tuesday, February 4, 2020 10:22 AM To: Jakob Heitz (jheitz) ; Job Snijder

Re: [GROW] Question about BGP Large Communities

2020-02-04 Thread Alvaro Retana
On February 4, 2020 at 1:22:11 PM, Sriram, Kotikalapudi (Fed) wrote: [Speaking as a WG participant.] Sriram: Hi! ... > Question: > > Can the draft simply make an IANA request for > a Global Administrator ASN value for Route Leaks Protection (RLP) type > and request that it be published in IAN

[GROW] Question about BGP Large Communities

2020-02-04 Thread Sriram, Kotikalapudi (Fed)
In the route leaks solution draft, https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-grow-route-leak-detection-mitigation-02 we (the authors) have proposed using BGP Large Community. We specify this to be a "well-known transitive Large Community". Question: Can the draft simply make an IANA request for