Re: [RFC] Multiboot2 drafting

2010-05-14 Thread Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
Hi there, I know next to nothing about GRUB, and have not yet read the multiboot spec, but I wonder if you could comment on how or whether this is related to either the Open Firmware Device Tree or the Flattened Device Tree used in various embedded OS ports. It would be cool if there were

Re: RTL Languages support

2010-05-14 Thread Yaron Shahrabani
2010/5/14 Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko phco...@gmail.com ‎‏ׂשלום, ירון. You spelled it perfectly! I hope I spelled your name correctly Yaron Shahrabani wrote: Hello everyone I would like to ask if anyone has any experience with translation of grub to RTL language No such

Re: RTL Languages support

2010-05-14 Thread Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
Yaron Shahrabani wrote: Be sure to use gfxterm (insmod vbe; loadfont /unifont.pf2) because VGA doesn't support any non-ASCII characters. This should have been insmod vbe; loadfont /unifont.pf2; terminal_output gfxterm I got into some building problems I installed flex and bison

Re: [RFC] Multiboot2 drafting

2010-05-14 Thread Gary Jennejohn
On Fri, 14 May 2010 08:31:13 +0200 Vladimir '__-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko phco...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there, I know next to nothing about GRUB, and have not yet read the multiboot spec, but I wonder if you could comment on how or whether this is related to either the Open Firmware

Re: [RFC] Multiboot2 drafting

2010-05-14 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: 20100514132142.252b0...@ernst.jennejohn.org Gary Jennejohn gljennj...@googlemail.com writes: : As an example of what I think Andrew was addressing, U-Boot can pass a : Flattened Device Tree to the Linux kernel. This basically allows a : Linux kernel to handle variants of a

Re: [RFC] Multiboot2 drafting

2010-05-14 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: 4becee31.3060...@gmail.com Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko phco...@gmail.com writes: : Yes and No. multiboot2 describes some aspects of the host system : hardware but I've never heard of device trees outside of IEEE1275 or : xnu, where it's probably a historical

Re: [RFC] Multiboot2 drafting

2010-05-14 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: 4becee31.3060...@gmail.com Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko phco...@gmail.com writes: : 2) Keep the things as advanced as they need to but not more advanced. : E.g. when you supply an info about serial port you tell: it's at I/O : port N rather than: it's in PCI bar X

Re: [RFC] Multiboot2 drafting

2010-05-14 Thread Rafal Jaworowski
On 2010-05-14, at 14:44, M. Warner Losh wrote: In message: 4becee31.3060...@gmail.com Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko phco...@gmail.com writes: : Yes and No. multiboot2 describes some aspects of the host system : hardware but I've never heard of device trees outside of

grub2 back to lilo ?

2010-05-14 Thread bc w
Hi I think the problem proposed by this article is very important. The article URL is http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/tutorials/7004/1/ http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/tutorials/7004/2/ It said In the distant past, Linux used a boot loader called lilo. Lilo was a

Re: grub2 back to lilo ?

2010-05-14 Thread BVK Chaitanya
I tend to agree. IIRC, with grub-legacy (on debian), we could simply add any user customizations at the end of the menu.lst (after auto generated list markers) which would remain there even after update-grub operations. Thus user had an easier way to add his customizations (without even need to

Re: grub2 back to lilo ?

2010-05-14 Thread Colin D Bennett
Perhaps instead of pre-generating the entire GRUB configuration (e.g. from a particular Distro like Ubuntu 9.10) things could be inserted into the main grub.cfg at GRUB boot time. Here's just a portion of what Ubuntu 10.04 puts in the generated grub.cfg (of course with a stern warning not to hand

Re: grub2 back to lilo ?

2010-05-14 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Colin D Bennett wrote: Perhaps instead of pre-generating the entire GRUB configuration (e.g. from a particular Distro like Ubuntu 9.10) things could be inserted into the main grub.cfg at GRUB boot time. Here's just a portion of what Ubuntu 10.04 puts in the generated grub.cfg (of course with a