RE: Full documentation for GRUB2

2011-04-08 Thread Treutwein Bernhard
April 06, 2011 4:13 PM > To: 'The development of GNU GRUB' > Subject: RE: Full documentation for GRUB2 > > > Hi Robert, > > although I have different requirements, these are similar enough > to yours that I might give you tips ... > > In your case I wou

RE: Full documentation for GRUB2

2011-04-06 Thread Treutwein Bernhard
iting grub.cfg (I really prefer this way). regards -- Bernhard > -Original Message- > From: Robert Wolf [mailto:r.wolf.c...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 12:43 PM > To: grub-devel@gnu.org; help-g...@gnu.org > Subject: Re: Full documentation for GRUB2 >

Re: Full documentation for GRUB2

2011-04-01 Thread Robert Wolf
Hallo, the reason for my request of the complete grub2 documentation did come when I wanted to boot ubuntu livecd and knoppix livedvd from NTFS partition of windows vista. It is possible to boot these livecd/dvd distros from HD without installing and without booting it from CD/DVD medium. But

Re: Full documentation for GRUB2

2011-03-31 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 08:59:05AM -0500, richardvo...@gmail.com wrote: > > I've wondered occasionally whether it would be worth it to include > > something like GRUB_STATIC in upstream grub-mkconfig; if set, this would > > cause grub-mkconfig to do nothing, perhaps printing a message.  This > > wo

Re: Full documentation for GRUB2

2011-03-31 Thread richardvo...@gmail.com
> I've wondered occasionally whether it would be worth it to include > something like GRUB_STATIC in upstream grub-mkconfig; if set, this would > cause grub-mkconfig to do nothing, perhaps printing a message.  This > would mean you wouldn't have to figure out how to disable distribution > facilitie

Re: Full documentation for GRUB2

2011-03-31 Thread Patrick Strasser
schrieb Colin Watson am 2011-03-29 19:09: > On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 05:19:09PM +0200, Patrick Strasser wrote: >> I had a simmilar experience regarding the loopback system > > I've committed documentation of this command to trunk. Thanks! Now that was fast. >> >From my experience it's not working

Re: Full documentation for GRUB2

2011-03-31 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 04:39:37AM -0400, Isaac Dupree wrote: > Maybe there's some way to test your experiments? > If QEMU/KVM had a way to make a disk read-only within the > simulation*, then I'd try KVM with the whole disk but readonly. > Run, play with bootloader, abort KVM once it's booting a k

Re: Full documentation for GRUB2

2011-03-31 Thread Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
On 29.03.2011 17:58, Chris Murphy wrote: > It is not due to laziness that Red Hat continues to hack GRUB Legacy, even > for EFI support. > > It's very recent that GRUB2 is suitable for production use. Versions prior to 1.97 aren't suitable for anything else than use by a coder. When Red Hat nee

Re: Full documentation for GRUB2

2011-03-31 Thread Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
On 31.03.2011 10:39, Isaac Dupree wrote: > If QEMU/KVM had a way to make a disk read-only within the simulation*, > then I'd try KVM with the whole disk but readonly. Run, play with > bootloader, abort KVM once it's booting a kernel (which will probably > get confused soon anyway once it realizes

Re: Full documentation for GRUB2

2011-03-31 Thread Isaac Dupree
On 03/30/11 21:15, Leslie Rhorer wrote: ... If you ask me, that seems pretty dismissive of the idea the admin should manually edit grub.cfg. The fact the file is blindly and willfully overwritten by configuration and upgrade utilities would seem to re-enforce the notion it is not a terri

Re: Full documentation for GRUB2

2011-03-31 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 07:15:37PM -0600, Leslie Rhorer wrote: > Colin Watson wrote: > > That's a reasonable point, thanks. I've added this text to the "Simple > > configuration" node: > > > > `grub-mkconfig' does have some limitations. While adding extra > > custom menu entries to the en

Re: Full documentation for GRUB2

2011-03-30 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Chris Murphy wrote: On Mar 29, 2011, at 9:19 AM, Patrick Strasser wrote: Moreover googling is no alternative to proper documentation. I'd like to contribute examples that I found to the grub docs, but the manual gives no hint how to do so... ;-) It's the developers task and skill to document

Re: Full documentation for GRUB2

2011-03-30 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mar 29, 2011, at 9:19 AM, Patrick Strasser wrote: > > Moreover googling is no alternative to proper documentation. > I'd like to contribute examples that I found to the grub docs, but the > manual gives no hint how to do so... ;-) GRUB Legacy documentation is a severe mind bender. It is made

RE: Full documentation for GRUB2

2011-03-30 Thread Leslie Rhorer
> -Original Message- > From: Colin Watson [mailto:cjwat...@ubuntu.com] > Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 8:26 PM > To: Leslie Rhorer > Cc: grub-devel@gnu.org; help-g...@gnu.org > Subject: Re: Full documentation for GRUB2 > > really nice for it to be fully document

Re: Full documentation for GRUB2

2011-03-29 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 07:18:02PM -0600, Leslie Rhorer wrote: > Colin Watson wrote: > > I agree that developers have the *responsibility* to document features > > they add, and I've been trying to encourage this in GRUB where I can. > > However, most of the problem is not new features, but the bac

Re: Full documentation for GRUB2

2011-03-29 Thread Isaac Dupree
On 03/29/11 21:18, Leslie Rhorer wrote: I think a good example of this is the sort order of the items in the boot list. Under GRUB legacy, editing the menu list order was quite simple. I did some significant searching to try to find a way to do this with GRUB 2, but as far as I was able

Re: Full documentation for GRUB2

2011-03-29 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Leslie Rhorer wrote: I sympathize, but only to a point. No matter how dreary or how daunting the volume of work, it is essential it be done. I agree. I looked into helping do some of the documentation, but found that I just did not know enough of the internals to properly do it.

Re: Full documentation for GRUB2

2011-03-29 Thread Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
On 30.03.2011 03:18, Leslie Rhorer wrote: > On a related note, there does not seem to be any way to associate > the default boot selection with a particular target. To the best of my > ability to tell, one may only specify a specific entry number within the > boot target list, not a specific

RE: Full documentation for GRUB2

2011-03-29 Thread Leslie Rhorer
> -Original Message- > From: help-grub-bounces+lrhorer=satx.rr@gnu.org [mailto:help-grub- > bounces+lrhorer=satx.rr@gnu.org] On Behalf Of Colin Watson > Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 11:10 AM > To: grub-devel@gnu.org > Cc: help-g...@gnu.org > Subject: Re: F

Re: Full documentation for GRUB2

2011-03-29 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 05:19:09PM +0200, Patrick Strasser wrote: > I had a simmilar experience regarding the loopback system - which is by > itself really great. The manual gives a hint of the command, but no > description and no example. I got some working examples from Ubuntu > [ubuntu] and from

Re: Full documentation for GRUB2

2011-03-29 Thread Patrick Strasser
schrieb Treutwein Bernhard am 2011-03-24 16:06: > Hi Bill & Robert, > > [...] >>> Is there some complete official documentation of GRUB2, or is GRUB2 full >>> documentation only in source code?;-) >> >> I think the Grub2 developers would welcome volunteers to help write >> documentation. > > this

Re: Full documentation for GRUB2

2011-03-26 Thread Jordan Uggla
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 8:06 AM, Treutwein Bernhard wrote: > Hi Bill & Robert, > > [...] >> > Is there some complete official documentation of GRUB2, or is GRUB2 full >> > documentation only in source code?;-) >> >> I think the Grub2 developers would welcome volunteers to help write >> documentati

Re: Full documentation for GRUB2

2011-03-25 Thread kf
I agree. I tried myself to work on it last year but like you didn't get very far and you cannot improve on any doc without intimate knowlege of the system. Mind you I wasn't impressed by the grub1 manual either :-)) Grub is such a complex package that I'd really like to see a lot of effort go

Re: Full documentation for GRUB2

2011-03-24 Thread Treutwein Bernhard
Hi Bill & Robert, [...] > > Is there some complete official documentation of GRUB2, or is GRUB2 full > > documentation only in source code?;-) > > I think the Grub2 developers would welcome volunteers to help write > documentation. this is kind of a hen & egg problem. I would love to help improv