Re: GUADEC Theming API meeting minutes

2008-08-05 Thread Hagen Schink
Hi, ok, I didn't get any response to my theming proposal. So please have look on this: http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Plasma/Theme http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Plasma/Theme#Theme_Storage It's similar to what I proposed for GTK+ in my last mail. I don't know how they implemen

Re: GUADEC Theming API meeting minutes

2008-07-16 Thread Robert Staudinger
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 5:42 PM, Alberto Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > this is a summary of the issues discussed and the roadmap about a new > theming API for Gtk+ at GUADEC: > > Current situation: > > > Misc: > * Engines are too dependent on widget impleme

Re: GUADEC Theming API meeting minutes

2008-07-16 Thread Tuomas Kuosmanen
2008/7/15 Alberto Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Oh, and spacing between widgets shouldn't be a fixed part of layout. It > > should all be defined in themes. No more studying the HIG and manual > > labour to get that right. 100% consistency and flexibility instead. > > That works belongs to Glade/G

Re: GUADEC Theming API meeting minutes

2008-07-15 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 16:42 +0100, Alberto Ruiz wrote: > Hi all, > > this is a summary of the issues discussed and the roadmap about a new > theming API for Gtk+ at GUADEC: > > Roadmap: > * Create a CSS engine to play with it and see how far can we go with > flexibility in the artist side (And

Re: GUADEC Theming API meeting minutes

2008-07-15 Thread Cody Russell
On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 18:25 +0200, Benjamin Berg wrote: > This is a problem, but it cannot be addressed by taking engines out of > the equation. We need engines at least for OS integration, so I think > that the best thing we can do is to create a proper quality assurance > for them. And the OS in

Re: GUADEC Theming API meeting minutes

2008-07-15 Thread Alberto Ruiz
2008/7/14 Thorsten Wilms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 16:42 +0100, Alberto Ruiz wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> this is a summary of the issues discussed and the roadmap about a new >> theming API for Gtk+ at GUADEC: >> > >> Roadmap: >> * Create a CSS engine to play with it and see how fa

Re: GUADEC Theming API meeting minutes

2008-07-14 Thread Hagen Schink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi there, I used the last two weeks to think about a new/other way to integrate theming into GTK+. The main concern I took into account was the following one: > * Hard for artists to create themes right without writing an engine Because artists h

Re: GUADEC Theming API meeting minutes

2008-07-14 Thread Owen Taylor
Sorry to miss the theming meeting ... I tried to make it, but was unable to ocate it. Some quick notes on theming: - We can't escape the reality that people want to use GTK+ theming without GTK+ widgets. The hackaround that Openoffice, Firefox, and Java do to do this currently are horrifying.

Re: GUADEC Theming API meeting minutes

2008-07-14 Thread Cody Russell
On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 12:06 -0400, Morten Welinder wrote: > You had such a meeting and no-one wanted to address the sad fact > that theme engines in their current form are a major source of > mysterius > bugs when they corrupt the state of the running program. But I think that's a result of having

Re: GUADEC Theming API meeting minutes

2008-07-14 Thread Benjamin Berg
On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 12:06 -0400, Morten Welinder wrote: > You had such a meeting and no-one wanted to address the sad fact > that theme engines in their current form are a major source of mysterius > bugs when they corrupt the state of the running program. This is a problem, but it cannot be add

Re: GUADEC Theming API meeting minutes

2008-07-14 Thread Benjamin Berg
On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 11:04 -0500, Cody Russell wrote: > On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 15:56 +, Benjamin Berg wrote: > > > > Would everyone be fine if I start adding a "theme" keyword to any bug > > that is about theming or will affect themes? > > It may also be a good idea to create a tracker bug for

Re: GUADEC Theming API meeting minutes

2008-07-14 Thread Morten Welinder
You had such a meeting and no-one wanted to address the sad fact that theme engines in their current form are a major source of mysterius bugs when they corrupt the state of the running program. Morten ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome

Re: GUADEC Theming API meeting minutes

2008-07-14 Thread Cody Russell
On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 15:56 +, Benjamin Berg wrote: > > Would everyone be fine if I start adding a "theme" keyword to any bug > that is about theming or will affect themes? > It may also be a good idea to create a tracker bug for issues that can > be addressed with an API change like this. Ye

Re: GUADEC Theming API meeting minutes

2008-07-14 Thread Benjamin Berg
On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 11:49 -0400, Paul Davis wrote: > On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 16:42 +0100, Alberto Ruiz wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > this is a summary of the issues discussed and the roadmap about a new > > theming API for Gtk+ at GUADEC: > > great set of notes and maybe even goals. i'd love to see

Re: GUADEC Theming API meeting minutes

2008-07-14 Thread Paul Davis
On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 16:42 +0100, Alberto Ruiz wrote: > Hi all, > > this is a summary of the issues discussed and the roadmap about a new > theming API for Gtk+ at GUADEC: great set of notes and maybe even goals. i'd love to see another issue incorporated that is closely related to, though not

GUADEC Theming API meeting minutes

2008-07-14 Thread Alberto Ruiz
Hi all, this is a summary of the issues discussed and the roadmap about a new theming API for Gtk+ at GUADEC: Current situation: Misc: * Engines are too dependent on widget implementation details * Proper color inheritance for widgets (use case: slider text on dark t