Re: selected text is PRIMARY?

2006-04-15 Thread Yevgen Muntyan
Xavier Bestel wrote: It does not cause any problem. Just some people want to switch from a well-defined behavior (one PRIMARY per DISPLAY) Noone wants to change *this*. to a fuzzy one: you want to have several selections, but how many ? - One selection per application ? - One selection per

Re: selected text is PRIMARY?

2006-04-14 Thread David Christian Berg
On Fri, 2006-04-14 at 07:21 +0300, Tor Lillqvist wrote: Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro writes: Maybe users don't know what X11 is, but maybe they know what the middle button usually does in text widgets; user mode middle button? I don't have any middle button. I have this weird wheel

Re: selected text is PRIMARY?

2006-04-14 Thread Joachim Noreiko
From: Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro Maybe users don't know what X11 is, but maybe they know what the middle button usually does in text widgets; it's very easy to discover this even by accident, and it's a very useful feature once discovered. And GNOME itself has behaved like this

Re: selected text is PRIMARY?

2006-04-14 Thread Matthias Clasen
On 4/14/06, Joachim Noreiko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The current behaviour breaks the principle that each application is entirely separate from others. You could say that as long as we have this problem of a background application forgetting its selection, we're not truly a multi-tasking

Re: selected text is PRIMARY?

2006-04-14 Thread Xavier Bestel
Le vendredi 14 avril 2006 à 17:54 +0100, Joachim Noreiko a écrit : Thats not a principle, thats nonsense. Applications are not entirely separate from each other. There are plenty of resources which they have to share somehow, from screen real estate to cpu time. X selections like

Re: selected text is PRIMARY?

2006-04-14 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 19:14:17 +0200, Xavier Bestel wrote: - One selection per application ? - One selection per window ? - One selection per widget ? I'd go for one selection per widget - I'm always annoyed in X when I select something, and my previous selection is erased (even though I do

Re: selected text is PRIMARY?

2006-04-14 Thread John Ehresman
Xavier Bestel wrote: It does not cause any problem. Just some people want to switch from a well-defined behavior (one PRIMARY per DISPLAY) to a fuzzy one: you want to have several selections, but how many ? - One selection per application ? - One selection per window ? - One selection per widget

Re: selected text is PRIMARY?

2006-04-14 Thread Xavier Bestel
Le vendredi 14 avril 2006 à 19:28 +0200, Jernej Simončič a écrit : On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 19:14:17 +0200, Xavier Bestel wrote: - One selection per application ? - One selection per window ? - One selection per widget ? I'd go for one selection per widget - I'm always annoyed in X when I

Re: selected text is PRIMARY?

2006-04-14 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 20:14:36 +0200, Xavier Bestel wrote: Le vendredi 14 avril 2006 à 19:28 +0200, Jernej Simončič a écrit : On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 19:14:17 +0200, Xavier Bestel wrote: - One selection per application ? - One selection per window ? - One selection per widget ? I'd go for one

Re: selected text is PRIMARY?

2006-04-14 Thread Alan M. Evans
On Fri, 2006-04-14 at 11:14, Xavier Bestel wrote: Le vendredi 14 avril 2006 à 19:28 +0200, Jernej Simončič a écrit : On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 19:14:17 +0200, Xavier Bestel wrote: - One selection per application ? - One selection per window ? - One selection per widget ? I'd go for

Re: selected text is PRIMARY?

2006-04-14 Thread Xavier Bestel
Le vendredi 14 avril 2006 à 12:10 -0700, Alan M. Evans a écrit : On Fri, 2006-04-14 at 11:14, Xavier Bestel wrote: Le vendredi 14 avril 2006 à 19:28 +0200, Jernej Simončič a écrit : On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 19:14:17 +0200, Xavier Bestel wrote: - One selection per application ? - One

Re: selected text is PRIMARY?

2006-04-14 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 23:02:32 +0200, Xavier Bestel wrote: Having Ctrl-C being dependant on the last clicked widget is a bad idea in real life. Your multiple selections look equally bad to me. I'd expect Ctrl+C (or Ctrl+Ins, I'm used to old key combinations for clipboard operations) to only have

Re: selected text is PRIMARY?

2006-04-13 Thread Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro
On Ter, 2006-04-11 at 16:25 +0100, Joachim Noreiko wrote: Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 10:11:28 +0200 From: Xavier Bestel [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, 2006-04-10 at 22:48, Yevgen Muntyan wrote: I actually doubt that if you have two selections with same colors and everything, then it will

Re: selected text is PRIMARY?

2006-04-11 Thread Xavier Bestel
Hi, On Mon, 2006-04-10 at 22:48, Yevgen Muntyan wrote: I actually doubt that if you have two selections with same colors and everything, then it will cause troubles. Yes, you are not able to tell which one will get pasted. But how often does it happen, that you select some text, have a cup of

Re: selected text is PRIMARY?

2006-04-11 Thread Joachim Noreiko
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 10:11:28 +0200 From: Xavier Bestel [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, 2006-04-10 at 22:48, Yevgen Muntyan wrote: I actually doubt that if you have two selections with same colors and everything, then it will cause troubles. Yes, you are not able to tell which one will get

Re: selected text is PRIMARY?

2006-04-11 Thread Yevgen Muntyan
Xavier Bestel wrote: Hi, On Mon, 2006-04-10 at 22:48, Yevgen Muntyan wrote: I actually doubt that if you have two selections with same colors and everything, then it will cause troubles. Yes, you are not able to tell which one will get pasted. But how often does it happen, that you select

Re: selected text is PRIMARY?

2006-03-10 Thread James Henstridge
Yevgen Muntyan wrote: Brian J. Tarricone wrote: mozilla allows user having multiple selections, and it doesn't clear selection when you select something else. It's not buggy, it's correct (not for everyone, of course). Not according to accepted practice. At the very least (not even

Re: selected text is PRIMARY?

2006-03-10 Thread Yevgen Muntyan
) *but* will make selection in text *not* disappear when you select text elsewhere. I do understand all this stuff about primary selection, and I do understand that many people are happy about it. Point is that selected text == PRIMARY is important only only for those who really care about

Re: selected text is PRIMARY?

2006-03-09 Thread Brian J. Tarricone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 3/9/2006 11:38 AM, Yevgen Muntyan wrote: Hello everybody, I opened a bug http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=334060 , about selected text == PRIMARY gtk thing. What do people think about enabling people use gtk in 'mozilla-like' mode

Re: selected text is PRIMARY?

2006-03-09 Thread Yevgen Muntyan
Brian J. Tarricone wrote: It's not really gtk that's in the wrong here - IMHO mozilla/firefox is buggy. mozilla allows user having multiple selections, and it doesn't clear selection when you select something else. It's not buggy, it's correct (not for everyone, of course). The document you

Re: selected text is PRIMARY?

2006-03-09 Thread Brian J. Tarricone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 3/9/2006 3:05 PM, Yevgen Muntyan wrote: Brian J. Tarricone wrote: It's not really gtk that's in the wrong here - IMHO mozilla/firefox is buggy. mozilla allows user having multiple selections, and it doesn't clear selection when you select

Re: selected text is PRIMARY?

2006-03-09 Thread Brian J. Tarricone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 3/9/2006 3:51 PM, Yevgen Muntyan wrote: Brian J. Tarricone wrote: mozilla allows user having multiple selections, and it doesn't clear selection when you select something else. It's not buggy, it's correct (not for everyone, of course).

Re: selected text is PRIMARY?

2006-03-09 Thread Yevgen Muntyan
Brian J. Tarricone wrote: Well, we're arguing over what boils down to a personal opinion/aesthetics, which is useless. No agreement can be made here, so let's just drop it. We can't! This is what I am talking about: I like this, and you like that, and it's impossible to satisfy both. And

Re: selected text is PRIMARY?

2006-03-09 Thread Brian J. Tarricone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 3/9/2006 5:31 PM, Yevgen Muntyan wrote: I agree. Can we please get entry in FileChooser? Try ctrl+L. Assuming that's what you mean. As a random example, a piece of software I maintain had an option for whether or not to show application