Re: Past and future evolution of Gtk+

2017-09-18 Thread Michael Torrie
On 09/18/2017 09:03 AM, Carsten Mattner wrote: > Qt5 and GTK3 both seem to be very hard to write a Hello World > X11 or Wayland window that uses less than 25MB to 30MB. > This is something that can quickly become a problem and > deal breaker if you want to run more than a few GUI applications.

Re: Past and future evolution of Gtk+

2017-09-18 Thread Michael Torrie
On 09/18/2017 07:39 AM, Carsten Mattner wrote: > Ian, Qt and FLTK have GUI builders and FLTK generates code, not markup. > Qt is used heavily with the declarative variant QML in entertainment > systems of cars and such. If QML is something that works for you > and the licensing is compatible, then

Re: Past and future evolution of Gtk+

2017-09-18 Thread Igor Korot
Sorry, wrong message. On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 11:04 AM, Carsten Mattner wrote: > On 9/18/17, Igor Korot wrote: >> On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Carsten Mattner >> wrote: >>> Thanks Igor for the wxWidgets clarification.

Re: Past and future evolution of Gtk+

2017-09-18 Thread Carsten Mattner
On 9/18/17, Igor Korot wrote: > On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Carsten Mattner > wrote: >> Thanks Igor for the wxWidgets clarification. > > NP. > After 7 years working with the library, submitting patches to it and > doing development with it I

Re: Past and future evolution of Gtk+

2017-09-18 Thread Carsten Mattner
One difference to take into account is how much memory overhead the different toolkits have. Responsiveness these days is mostly down to drawing and input architecture. For instance GTK3 does not behave smoothly when used with a different than GNOME3 or no compositor at all, while curiously Qt5

Re: Past and future evolution of Gtk+

2017-09-18 Thread Igor Korot
On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Carsten Mattner wrote: > Thanks Igor for the wxWidgets clarification. NP. After 7 years working with the library, submitting patches to it and doing development with it I guess I'm "overqualified" to work with it. ;-) So, does the

Re: Past and future evolution of Gtk+

2017-09-18 Thread Carsten Mattner
Thanks Igor for the wxWidgets clarification. On 9/18/17, Igor Korot wrote: > On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 9:39 AM, Carsten Mattner > wrote: >> On 9/18/17, Ian Chapman wrote: >>> This is not a troll, only a trawler as in fishing

Re: Past and future evolution of Gtk+

2017-09-18 Thread Carsten Mattner
On 9/18/17, Ian Chapman wrote: > This is not a troll, only a trawler as in fishing boat. I found the > discourse on “traditional file chooser” quite interesting and > informative. I'm using glade 3.18.3 and I'm able to do useful work so > possibly I'm off subject. > > Point

Re: Past and future evolution of Gtk+

2017-09-17 Thread Ian Chapman
This is not a troll, only a trawler as in fishing boat. I found the discourse on “traditional file chooser” quite interesting and informative. I'm using glade 3.18.3 and I'm able to do useful work so possibly I'm off subject. Point 1 In glade I can select GtkMenuItem and GtkImageMenuItem and

Re: Past and future evolution of Gtk+ (was: How to get a "traditional" file-chooser)

2017-09-17 Thread Paul Davis
1) this is the wrong mailing list 2) it has been made clear many, many, many times that, largely as a result of the developers of GTK+ largely being associated with the GNOME project, the development priorities reflect what GNOME needs/wants. 3) no other community of interest has stepped up to

Past and future evolution of Gtk+ (was: How to get a "traditional" file-chooser)

2017-09-17 Thread Nicolas George
Le nonidi 29 fructidor, an CCXXV, Daniel Kasak a écrit : > Come on. It's troll bait. I am very sure you will consider this mail troll bait too, but I assure you it is not, and an honest reading of its contents, with the definition of troll in mind, will show that it is not. This thread shows a