Re: Setting up GTK+ on Windows using Mingw

2008-05-18 Thread Damon Register
Tor Lillqvist wrote: >> If you mean by "broad" a very basic knowledge > > Yes, sorry. That's indeed what I meant. (Not a native speaker...) that's ok. being married to a non-native speaker, I have learned to guess that sort of thing. > I don't want to sound like this would be some competition, b

Re: Setting up GTK+ on Windows using Mingw

2008-05-18 Thread Tor Lillqvist
> So, is it really so bad to come up with some instructions that go beyond > this list and might even help someone in more than one list? No, not at all. Your message was very welcome. --tml ___ gtk-list mailing list gtk-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome

Re: Setting up GTK+ on Windows using Mingw

2008-05-18 Thread Damon Register
Tor Lillqvist wrote: > Please note than Damon's instructions, while very detailled, were > specifically oriented towards Glade and gtkmm -using software > developers, as far as I could see. That is one problem with this: When > one person talks about "GTK" they actually mean using GTK from C++ > us

Re: Setting up GTK+ on Windows using Mingw

2008-05-18 Thread Tor Lillqvist
> Cheers for the GTK on Win32 instructions. Was that serious or tongue-in-cheek? Please note than Damon's instructions, while very detailled, were specifically oriented towards Glade and gtkmm -using software developers, as far as I could see. That is one problem with this: When one person talks

Re: Setting up GTK+ on Windows using Mingw

2008-05-18 Thread Andrew Stormont
Cheers for the GTK on Win32 instructions. 2008/5/18 Damon Register <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Gorshkov wrote: > > John Smith wrote: > >> On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 1:25 PM, Tor Lillqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> Well, it is kinda assumed that people interested in developing > >>> GTK+-using soft

Re: Setting up GTK+ on Windows using Mingw

2008-05-18 Thread Rob Pearce
On Sunday 18 May 2008, Damon Register wrote: > I do find that many times instructions are written for the experts > and sometimes leave out small details that might not be so obvious > for non-experts. > Instructions written by the software authors will nearly always be written for experts. This

Re: Setting up GTK+ on Windows using Mingw

2008-05-18 Thread Tor Lillqvist
> If you mean by "broad" a very basic knowledge Yes, sorry. That's indeed what I meant. (Not a native speaker...) Reading http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/broad I guess I meant meaning 3b or 8 but it could also be interpreted as meaning 2. > 2. from http://gladewin32.sourceforge.net/ ge

Re: Setting up GTK+ on Windows using Mingw

2008-05-17 Thread Damon Register
Gorshkov wrote: > John Smith wrote: >> On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 1:25 PM, Tor Lillqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Well, it is kinda assumed that people interested in developing >>> GTK+-using software have a broad understanding of concepts like >>> pkg-config, make, shell commands, environment v

Re: Setting up GTK+ on Windows using Mingw

2008-05-14 Thread Gorshkov
John Smith wrote: > On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 1:25 PM, Tor Lillqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Well, it is kinda assumed that people interested in developing >> GTK+-using software have a broad understanding of concepts like >> pkg-config, make, shell commands, environment variables PATH and >> P

Re: Setting up GTK+ on Windows using Mingw

2008-05-14 Thread Tor Lillqvist
> yes, i suppose i could adopt this policy for my software tool and user > base (seismologists). Hmm. It seems we are talking about apples and oranges here. The original poster, as far as I could understand, is a *programmer* and wanted to set up a *development* environment for building GTK+-using

Re: Setting up GTK+ on Windows using Mingw

2008-05-14 Thread Mike Hudson
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Re: Setting up GTK+ on Windows using Mingw

2008-05-14 Thread Richard Boaz
On Wed, 2008-05-14 at 14:04 +0200, Richard Boaz wrote: >> i've said it before (many years ago now) and i'll say it again: providing >> a product without good documentation that will allow new users to both >> learn how to use it and get the job done at the same time is a product >> that has yet to

Re: Setting up GTK+ on Windows using Mingw

2008-05-14 Thread Paul Davis
On Wed, 2008-05-14 at 14:04 +0200, Richard Boaz wrote: > i've said it before (many years ago now) and i'll say it again: providing > a product without good documentation that will allow new users to both > learn how to use it and get the job done at the same time is a product > that has yet to eve

Re: Setting up GTK+ on Windows using Mingw

2008-05-14 Thread Sergei Steshenko
--- Richard Boaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > it's one of the drawbacks of open-source: no one can be held responsible > for a bad attitude created from a position of power; not a little unlike > the same attitude created from a position of monopoly. > > i've said it before (many years ago n

Re: Setting up GTK+ on Windows using Mingw

2008-05-14 Thread Igor Gorbounov
John Smith пишет: > [...] > Actually, I *am* using and IDE: I have set up MingW with Eclipse as > the IDE on Windows. And since im obviously not an expert (yet) [...] So why not using gtk+ installer from http://sourceforge.net/projects/gladewin32 ? I also use Eclipse (and now begin using Code::Blo

Re: Setting up GTK+ on Windows using Mingw

2008-05-14 Thread Richard Boaz
Well, it is kinda assumed that people interested in developing GTK+-using software have a broad understanding of concepts like pkg-config, make, shell commands, environment variables PATH and PKG_CONFIG_PATH etc. For people who really don't have a clue about stuff like that, a MinGW and MSY

Re: Setting up GTK+ on Windows using Mingw

2008-05-14 Thread John Smith
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 1:25 PM, Tor Lillqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, it is kinda assumed that people interested in developing > GTK+-using software have a broad understanding of concepts like > pkg-config, make, shell commands, environment variables PATH and > PKG_CONFIG_PATH etc. >

Re: Setting up GTK+ on Windows using Mingw

2008-05-14 Thread Tor Lillqvist
> Should I just untar the whole bundle, and move it into my mingw directory ? (I assume you mean "unzip" and not "untar", if you are talking about the gtk+ bundles on ftp.gnome.org? And BTW, don't use "Winzip". It tries to be too clever and can actually be dangerous. Just use the built-in zip arch

Setting up GTK+ on Windows using Mingw

2008-05-14 Thread John Smith
Hi, Im running on Windows XP, and have just setup MingW and Msys. Now ive downloaded the 'all-in-one bundle' of the GTK+ stack, and am a bit unsure about how to proceed with my setup. My ultimate goal is to write and compile programs that use GTK+ on Windows. Should I just untar the whole bundle,