Re: Why gtk+ application are so slow

2004-12-13 Thread Joao Victor
Hello folks, I can't resist commenting about the oh-so-popular-with-gtk give me some numbers comentary. Every once in a while there's somebody saying GTK is slow, and there's another someone asking for numbers... i think we should try to figure a pattern here. If 1 person was saying GTK is slow,

Re: Why gtk+ application are so slow

2004-12-13 Thread Joao Victor
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 07:51:16 -0500, Paul Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i must be ultra modern, then. gedit fires up slightly faster than kedit in all of 10 tests, including 5 done without flushing the buffer cache and 5 where the buffer cache was flushed every time. Could you please tell us

Re: Why gtk+ application are so slow

2004-12-13 Thread Paul Davis
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 07:51:16 -0500, Paul Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i must be ultra modern, then. gedit fires up slightly faster than kedit in all of 10 tests, including 5 done without flushing the buffer cache and 5 where the buffer cache was flushed every time. Could you please tell us

Re: Why gtk+ application are so slow

2004-12-13 Thread Joao Victor
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 09:14:35 -0500, Paul Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 07:51:16 -0500, Paul Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i must be ultra modern, then. gedit fires up slightly faster than kedit in all of 10 tests, including 5 done without flushing the buffer cache and

Re: Why gtk+ application are so slow

2004-12-13 Thread Paul Davis
P4, 2.8GHz, IDE 7200rpm drive, 2.4.26+lowlat kernel. Dude... talk about bleeding edge hardware! :P I've got a much average computer: AthlonXP2000+ 1.7Ghz 256RAM 72000rpm drive. I'm pretty sure Gedit opens really fast on your PC... but you gotta think about we poor users who just want to take

Re: Why gtk+ application are so slow

2004-12-13 Thread Owen Taylor
On Sun, 2004-12-12 at 18:50 +0300, Victor Nazarov wrote: Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, Victor Nazarov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can you give some numbers please? I don't see any noticeable delay when starting a GTK+ application. So I suspect that something is wrong with your setup.

Re: Why gtk+ application are so slow

2004-12-13 Thread Joao Victor
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 11:08:54 -0500, Owen Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try 'fc-cache -f' as root on your system, have stale font caches is a common cause of startup slowness. Someone recently found out there's an issue with Pango that makes rendering slower when using non-english languages,

Re: Why gtk+ application are so slow

2004-12-13 Thread Owen Taylor
On Mon, 2004-12-13 at 17:03 +, Joao Victor wrote: On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 11:08:54 -0500, Owen Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try 'fc-cache -f' as root on your system, have stale font caches is a common cause of startup slowness. Someone recently found out there's an issue with Pango

Why gtk+ application are so slow

2004-12-12 Thread Victor Nazarov
I'm using Debian every day... And I've been trying to find why I prefer MS Widows GUI over Gnome. Now I've undesrtood. It's responsiveness. So I know that gtk+ is superior over Win32 becouse of it's portabillity and the most important is the ease of programming with it. But Gnome and GTK

Re: Why gtk+ application are so slow

2004-12-12 Thread Thomas Coppi
I don't know about others, but when I run gtk+ apps on windows, they usually run at either the same speed or slightly faster than native windows mfc applications. The only time they slow down is during heavy network access for some reason, but otherwise they run quite well for being on windows,

Re: Why gtk+ application are so slow

2004-12-12 Thread Paul Davis
I'm using Debian every day... And I've been trying to find why I prefer MS Widows GUI over Gnome. Now I've undesrtood. It's responsiveness. So I know that gtk+ is superior over Win32 becouse of it's portabillity and the most important is the ease of programming with it. But Gnome and GTK

Re: Why gtk+ application are so slow

2004-12-12 Thread Paul Davis
I havn't said that GObject signal marshalling is a major bottleneck. I've said about overal run-time design of gtk... you said run time binding to signals. I have the following manual mesurments, wich are very inaccurate... It's near 3 seconds betwean clicking on gnome-terminal launcher and the

Re: Why gtk+ application are so slow

2004-12-12 Thread Michael Torrie
On Sun, 2004-12-12 at 18:50 +0300, Victor Nazarov wrote: I have only ps/2 keyboard and usb mouse. Machine is Pentium III Copermine 533 MHz with 384 MB RAM runing Linux kernel v 2.4.26... Try the latest release candidate for the linux 2.6.10 kernel. I think you'll find the 2.6 kernel gives

Re: Why gtk+ application are so slow

2004-12-12 Thread Victor Nazarov
Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, Victor Nazarov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can you give some numbers please? I don't see any noticeable delay when starting a GTK+ application. So I suspect that something is wrong with your setup. There are several things that could be wrong. Your font cache could be