Re: conflicts in the gnu project now affect guile

2019-10-18 Thread Mikhail Kryshen
Alex Sassmannshausen writes: > Hi Mikhail, > > Mikhail Kryshen writes: > >> Andy, >> >> If you've long had issues with RMS, then why do you still want to be >> with GNU? You don't have to participate in GNU to be part of the free >> software movement. Is it that you see GNU as an important

Re: conflicts in the gnu project now affect guile

2019-10-18 Thread pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 11:29:35AM +, Todor Kondić wrote: > You know, there is a big IT department within our institution and telling > them I will base some serious work on technologies such as GNU Guile and > Guix did raise a few eyebrows (those not raised are probably the cause of >

Re: conflicts in the gnu project now affect guile

2019-10-18 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Hi Mark, Mark H Weaver skribis: > RMS has not yet appointed me as a co-maintainer. To my knowledge, the > only thing he has done so far is to *ask* me if I wanted to be appointed > co-maintainer. I answered "yes", but I've not yet received any further > messages from him on this topic. I

Re: conflicts in the gnu project now affect guile

2019-10-18 Thread Thompson, David
On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 9:33 AM Christopher Lemmer Webber wrote: > > Mark H Weaver writes: > > > [resending with fixed headers, for proper threading] > > > > Hi Christopher, > > > > Christopher Lemmer Webber wrote: > >> I think *RMS's* action of unilaterally re-appointing Mark without > >>

Re: conflicts in the gnu project now affect guile

2019-10-18 Thread Christopher Lemmer Webber
Mark H Weaver writes: > [resending with fixed headers, for proper threading] > > Hi Christopher, > > Christopher Lemmer Webber wrote: >> I think *RMS's* action of unilaterally re-appointing Mark without >> notifying or asking the other maintainers > > Did you not see my recent correction about

Re: conflicts in the gnu project now affect guile

2019-10-18 Thread Mark H Weaver
Hi Christopher, Christopher Lemmer Webber wrote: > I think *RMS's* action of unilaterally re-appointing Mark without > notifying or asking the other maintainers Did you not see my recent correction about this? I CC'd you, but maybe something went wrong. Please see:

Re: conflicts in the gnu project now affect guile

2019-10-18 Thread Christopher Lemmer Webber
Jan Nieuwenhuizen writes: > Mark H Weaver writes: > >> Andy Wingo writes: >>> Before the RMS/GNU/FSF conversation started, Mark Weaver left Guile, for >>> essentially unrelated reasons. He threatened to leave because he wished >>> to be consulted before I landed mixed definitions and

Re: conflicts in the gnu project now affect guile

2019-10-18 Thread Alex Sassmannshausen
Hello, pelzflorian (Florian Pelz) writes: > This is very sad. I appreciate the enormous time investments of all > of you for Guile. When you make a decision, I hope you understand the > other. > > Regards, > Florian Many incredibly thoughtful emails have been sent to the mailing list on this

Re: conflicts in the gnu project now affect guile

2019-10-18 Thread Alex Sassmannshausen
Hi Mikhail, Mikhail Kryshen writes: > Andy, > > If you've long had issues with RMS, then why do you still want to be > with GNU? You don't have to participate in GNU to be part of the free > software movement. Is it that you see GNU as an important platform for > your political activism? Is

Re: conflicts in the gnu project now affect guile

2019-10-18 Thread Mark H Weaver
Hi Jan, Jan Nieuwenhuizen writes: > Mark H Weaver writes: > >> Andy Wingo writes: >>> Before the RMS/GNU/FSF conversation started, Mark Weaver left Guile, for >>> essentially unrelated reasons. He threatened to leave because he wished >>> to be consulted before I landed mixed definitions and

Re: conflicts in the gnu project now affect guile

2019-10-18 Thread Nala Ginrut
hi Andy, I think Mark has explained something, I hope you can rethink about it calmly. It seems a misunderstanding. A decade ago I came to Guile community, and I've learned many things from the people here. Andy, Mark, and Ludo are the people I really respect. However, someday if they start to