Guile and Mes [WAS: conflicts in the gnu project now affect guile]

2019-10-19 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Mark H Weaver writes: Hi Mark, >> I have been worrying a bit about this change because I do not see how to >> implement it in Mes. > > There's a straightforward way to translate a body containing mixed > definitions and expressions into a 'letrec*'. It's illustrated in the > commit log, and in t

Re: Guile and Mes [WAS: conflicts in the gnu project now affect guile]

2019-10-19 Thread Mikael Djurfeldt
On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 9:52 AM Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: > Mark H Weaver writes: > Our next big target for Mes should be > to remove define-macro support from eval_apply and load Guile's > psyntax-pp.scm. > A word of caution here: Running psyntax-pp.scm without optimization is dog slow. Best re

Re: conflicts in the gnu project now affect guile

2019-10-19 Thread Mark H Weaver
Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Christopher Lemmer Webber >> Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2019 11:33:11 -0400 >> Cc: Andy Wingo >> >> I'm extremely saddened to see RMS pull this move. It seriously >> undermines faith for maintainers of GNU projects that ther is any >> semblance of fair governance, and that

Re: conflicts in the gnu project now affect guile

2019-10-19 Thread Taylan Kammer
Hello dear Guilers and Guixers, I wholeheartedly agree with everything positive that has been said about Guile and Guix. Both are amazing projects led by amazing people, and probably some of the most important components of GNU's future. I've been on a long hiatus due to political interests othe

Re: conflicts in the gnu project now affect guile

2019-10-19 Thread Mark H Weaver
Taylan Kammer writes: > Really, I cannot stress it enough how refreshing it is to see the levels > of rationality and kindness in the discussions here, when compared to > most other places on the Internet. I tend to agree that this is generally a very friendly community. Obviously this thread has

Re: conflicts in the gnu project now affect guile

2019-10-19 Thread Nala Ginrut
On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 11:10 AM Mark H Weaver wrote: > It might create more divisions between us, at a time when we should be > focused on healing our wounds and coming together as a community. I'd > be glad to discuss it later. > > +1 I agree that let's keep friendly just like before, after al