Re: Idea: 'ethical hosting' [formerly mailman service (free for FOSS projects)]

2017-04-18 Thread Pjotr Prins
On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 07:52:58PM +, ng0 wrote: > (I am not a lawyer, and I haven't read every bit and piece of the German > Vereinsrecht > so far) > With a registered non-profit under the Vereinsrecht in Germany it would not > conflict with the non-profit status as long as the work supports

Re: Idea: 'ethical hosting' [formerly mailman service (free for FOSS projects)]

2017-04-18 Thread Pjotr Prins
On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 10:13:23PM +0200, Hartmut Goebel wrote: > Am 18.04.2017 um 19:59 schrieb Pjotr Prins: > > there is actually a business case for something like ethical hosting. > > I also see some demand for ethical hosting, esp. for collaboration > services like mailman, chat, file-share,

Re: Idea: 'ethical hosting' [formerly mailman service (free for FOSS projects)]

2017-04-18 Thread Christopher Allan Webber
Pjotr Prins writes: > On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 06:11:41PM +, ng0 wrote: >> > I don't think we should offer VPS (at first). But we can offer the >> > choice of using other VPS'. The VPS marked is overcrowded and very >> > competitive - I would not want to compete with that. I want to compete >>

Re: [staging] Mesa FTBFS on 32-bit architectures

2017-04-18 Thread Leo Famulari
On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 08:13:58PM -0400, Leo Famulari wrote: > On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 02:52:18PM -0400, Leo Famulari wrote: > > == > >Mesa 17.0.4: src/compiler/test-suite.log > > == > > > > # TOTAL: 10 >

Re: [staging] Mesa FTBFS on 32-bit architectures

2017-04-18 Thread Marius Bakke
Leo Famulari writes: > On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 02:52:18PM -0400, Leo Famulari wrote: >> == >>Mesa 17.0.4: src/compiler/test-suite.log >> == >> >> # TOTAL: 10 >> # PASS: 9 >> # SKIP:

Re: [staging] Mesa FTBFS on 32-bit architectures

2017-04-18 Thread Leo Famulari
On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 02:52:18PM -0400, Leo Famulari wrote: > == >Mesa 17.0.4: src/compiler/test-suite.log > == > > # TOTAL: 10 > # PASS: 9 > # SKIP: 0 > # XFAIL: 0 > # FAIL: 1 > # XPASS: 0 > # ERROR:

Re: [staging] Mesa FTBFS on 32-bit architectures

2017-04-18 Thread Marius Bakke
Leo Famulari writes: > On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 07:00:37PM +0200, Marius Bakke wrote: >> "mesa" failed the same test on both i686 and armhf: >> >> https://hydra.gnu.org/job/gnu/staging/mesa-17.0.4.i686-linux >> https://hydra.gnu.org/job/gnu/staging/mesa-17.0.4.armhf-linux >>

Re: [staging] Mesa FTBFS on 32-bit architectures

2017-04-18 Thread Leo Famulari
On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 02:52:18PM -0400, Leo Famulari wrote: > FAIL: glsl/tests/cache-test > === > > Failed to create ./cache-test-tmp/xdg-cache-home for shader cache (No such > file or directory)---disabling. > Failed to create ./cache-test-tmp/mesa-glsl-cache-dir for

Re: Idea: 'ethical hosting' [formerly mailman service (free for FOSS projects)]

2017-04-18 Thread Hartmut Goebel
Am 18.04.2017 um 19:59 schrieb Pjotr Prins: > there is actually a business case for something like ethical hosting. I also see some demand for ethical hosting, esp. for collaboration services like mailman, chat, file-share, a simple web-site, etc. I get questions about this quite often. But most

Re: Idea: 'ethical hosting' [formerly mailman service (free for FOSS projects)]

2017-04-18 Thread ng0
Pjotr Prins transcribed 2.2K bytes: > On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 06:11:41PM +, ng0 wrote: > > > I don't think we should offer VPS (at first). But we can offer the > > > choice of using other VPS'. The VPS marked is overcrowded and very > > > competitive - I would not want to compete with that. I

Re: [staging] Mesa FTBFS on 32-bit architectures

2017-04-18 Thread Leo Famulari
On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 02:52:18PM -0400, Leo Famulari wrote: > It's been discussed upstream here: > > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=97967 Ah, this appears to be slightly different than our issue. > Apparently, this is the upstream fix: > >

[staging] Mesa FTBFS on 32-bit architectures

2017-04-18 Thread Leo Famulari
On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 07:00:37PM +0200, Marius Bakke wrote: > "mesa" failed the same test on both i686 and armhf: > > https://hydra.gnu.org/job/gnu/staging/mesa-17.0.4.i686-linux > https://hydra.gnu.org/job/gnu/staging/mesa-17.0.4.armhf-linux > > Oddly, I'm not able to reproduce it when

Re: Idea: 'ethical hosting' [formerly mailman service (free for FOSS projects)]

2017-04-18 Thread Pjotr Prins
On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 06:11:41PM +, ng0 wrote: > > I don't think we should offer VPS (at first). But we can offer the > > choice of using other VPS'. The VPS marked is overcrowded and very > > competitive - I would not want to compete with that. I want to compete > > with companies that

Re: Idea: 'ethical hosting' [formerly mailman service (free for FOSS projects)]

2017-04-18 Thread ng0
Pjotr Prins transcribed 2.2K bytes: > Continuing this train of thought: there is actually a business case > for something like ethical hosting. For us it is 'easy' to create > services such as mail servers with IMAP and web front-end, mail-main > servers, wikimedia servers etc. But it is not easy

Idea: 'ethical hosting' [formerly mailman service (free for FOSS projects)]

2017-04-18 Thread Pjotr Prins
Continuing this train of thought: there is actually a business case for something like ethical hosting. For us it is 'easy' to create services such as mail servers with IMAP and web front-end, mail-main servers, wikimedia servers etc. But it is not easy for everyone, And it is certainly not easy

Re: Staging

2017-04-18 Thread Marius Bakke
Leo Famulari writes: > On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 09:33:12PM +0200, Marius Bakke wrote: >> @Leo, others: I don't anticipate more staging updates in a while, should >> we try and get this merged? > > Sure, I merged master into staging and started an evaluation of the > staging

Re: Progress and todos for Jave maven

2017-04-18 Thread Hartmut Goebel
Am 16.04.2017 um 17:38 schrieb Björn Höfling: > You posted half a year ago a series of patches that are not yet > integrated into Guix: > > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2016-09/threads.html#00774 > > Are they still worth integrating, or are they obsolete with your new > approach?

Re: GuixSD on servers [Fwd: [rtracker.1984.is #131647] A question about VServer system specific requirements]

2017-04-18 Thread Chris Marusich
ng0 writes: > Hi, a short update on the multiple providers I'm talking with at the moment. > This just in after the holidays from 1984 ehf, iceland. > > All in all not problematic, and they'd even add GuixSD to the list of > available isos > once there is an iso. > >

GuixSD on servers [Fwd: [rtracker.1984.is #131647] A question about VServer system specific requirements]

2017-04-18 Thread ng0
Hi, a short update on the multiple providers I'm talking with at the moment. This just in after the holidays from 1984 ehf, iceland. All in all not problematic, and they'd even add GuixSD to the list of available isos once there is an iso. So, what's the status on the ISO, who's working on it?

Re: Idea: mailman service (free for FOSS projects)

2017-04-18 Thread ng0
Good and interesting idea, if you have the money. I prefer to work on snippets and instructions, deploying more servers than necessary isn't an option for myself at the moment. Mantioning mailman and GuixSD: We'd first need to get all of Mailman packaged. 2/3 parts are still missing, I have

Idea: mailman service (free for FOSS projects)

2017-04-18 Thread Pjotr Prins
Hi all, I am looking for mailman hosting for a bunch of mailing lists. There are commercial hosters but they usually charge per list and you get no access to the host itself. Mailman hosting is non-trivial, you need a chain of tools and (in)sane handling of SPAM. Also the setup needs to be secure

Re: 01/01: scripts: system: Rename --no-grub option to --no-bootloader.

2017-04-18 Thread Mathieu Othacehe
Hi Ludo ! > Please make sure guix.texi is updated accordingly. Sorry for the ommission, please see : https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=26551 Mathieu

Re: 01/01: scripts: system: Rename --no-grub option to --no-bootloader.

2017-04-18 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Hello Mathieu & Danny, dan...@scratchpost.org (Danny Milosavljevic) skribis: > commit a9eadc06ac57846aaa8fdeb550b32e44f59c9437 > Author: Mathieu Othacehe > Date: Mon Apr 17 11:01:39 2017 +0200 > > scripts: system: Rename --no-grub option to --no-bootloader. > >

Re: potluck in the house

2017-04-18 Thread Andy Wingo
On Fri 14 Apr 2017 14:54, l...@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes: >> I think we should make it so that the lower-potluck-package process >> prefers "core" packages if available, and only goes to the channel if >> the core does not provide a package matching the specification. >> >> I think this is