Re: NetworkManager instead of Wicd in ‘%desktop-services’?

2017-09-02 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Hi, Mark H Weaver skribis: > l...@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes: [...] >> Overall, NM seems to work better than Wicd, whether or not one uses >> GNOME. Even if the issue Chris Marusich mentioned still applies, I >> think switching to NM in ‘%desktop-services’ would be a net win. > > I thin

Re: NetworkManager instead of Wicd in ‘%desktop-services’?

2017-09-02 Thread Mark H Weaver
l...@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes: > Andy Wingo skribis: > >> It seems like all GNOME users are ready for this change. I tried it out >> locally and it's quite nice. Patch like this: >> >> diff --git a/gnu/services/desktop.scm b/gnu/services/desktop.scm >> index 0509bd8a4..f12fe78e5

Re: NetworkManager instead of Wicd in ‘%desktop-services’?

2017-08-30 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Hi, Andy Wingo skribis: > It seems like all GNOME users are ready for this change. I tried it out > locally and it's quite nice. Patch like this: > > diff --git a/gnu/services/desktop.scm b/gnu/services/desktop.scm > index 0509bd8a4..f12fe78e5 100644 > --- a/gnu/services/desktop.sc

Re: NetworkManager instead of Wicd in ‘%desktop-services’?

2017-08-29 Thread Andy Wingo
On Mon 31 Jul 2017 03:35, Kei Kebreau writes: > l...@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes: > >> Hello Guix! >> >> Shouldn’t we replace Wicd with NetworkManager in ‘%desktop-services’? >> >> I’ve given it a try on a GuixSD GNOME installation and it appears to >> work well, and it’s obviously well-inte

Re: NetworkManager instead of Wicd in ‘%desktop-services’?

2017-08-10 Thread ng0
Forwarded to the thread on the list. Martin Honermeyer transcribed 1.9K bytes: > > > Am Do, 10. Aug, 2017 um 9:36 schrieb ng0 : > > > For me, it does work with a wired connection as well, but _not_ for > > > a > > > wireless network. So the issue seems to persist. > > > > > > Martin > > > >

Re: NetworkManager instead of Wicd in ‘%desktop-services’?

2017-08-10 Thread ng0
m...@strahlungsfrei.de transcribed 0.7K bytes: > > > l...@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes: > > > > > > > Hello Guix! > > > > > > > > Shouldn’t we replace Wicd with NetworkManager in ‘%desktop-services’? > > > > > > Did we ever resolve the issue where NetworkManager wouldn't > > > automatically

Re: NetworkManager instead of Wicd in ‘%desktop-services’?

2017-08-10 Thread Adam Van Ymeren
l...@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes: > Adam Van Ymeren skribis: >> Most of the time I have to restart my applications like icecat of emacs >> when my network settings change. I'm using wpa_supplicant and dhclient >> by hand rather than wicd. >> >> Something somewhere is caching network informa

Re: NetworkManager instead of Wicd in ‘%desktop-services’?

2017-08-06 Thread maze
l...@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes: Hello Guix! Shouldn’t we replace Wicd with NetworkManager in ‘%desktop-services’? Did we ever resolve the issue where NetworkManager wouldn't automatically connect [1]? I haven't tried it recently. [1] https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/201

Re: NetworkManager instead of Wicd in ‘%desktop-services’?

2017-08-06 Thread aurelien
l...@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes: > Chris Marusich skribis: > >> l...@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes: >> >>> Hello Guix! >>> >>> Shouldn’t we replace Wicd with NetworkManager in ‘%desktop-services’? >> >> Did we ever resolve the issue where NetworkManager wouldn't >> automatically connect

Re: NetworkManager instead of Wicd in ‘%desktop-services’?

2017-08-05 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Chris Marusich skribis: > l...@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes: > >> Hello Guix! >> >> Shouldn’t we replace Wicd with NetworkManager in ‘%desktop-services’? > > Did we ever resolve the issue where NetworkManager wouldn't > automatically connect [1]? I haven't tried it recently. > > [1] https://

Re: NetworkManager instead of Wicd in ‘%desktop-services’?

2017-08-05 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Mark H Weaver skribis: > I've since migrated my x86_64 GuixSD system to building everything > locally, using a local branch that's almost the same as 'core-updates' > except with 'expat' and 'pcre' ungrafted. Since then, I've been unable > to reproduce the problem I described above. OK. > Howe

Re: NetworkManager instead of Wicd in ‘%desktop-services’?

2017-08-05 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Adam Van Ymeren skribis: > Maxim Cournoyer writes: > >> l...@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes: >> >>> Maxim Cournoyer skribis: >>> I've noticed the same (lack of DNS resolution) following a reboot for some minutes and was also wondering what was causing this. I'm using wicd as pa

Re: NetworkManager instead of Wicd in ‘%desktop-services’?

2017-08-05 Thread Maxim Cournoyer
Hi, On August 2, 2017 10:26:10 AM EDT, Adam Van Ymeren wrote: >Maxim Cournoyer writes: > >> l...@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes: >> >>> Maxim Cournoyer skribis: >>> I've noticed the same (lack of DNS resolution) following a reboot >for some minutes and was also wondering what was ca

Re: NetworkManager instead of Wicd in ‘%desktop-services’?

2017-08-04 Thread Chris Marusich
l...@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes: > Hello Guix! > > Shouldn’t we replace Wicd with NetworkManager in ‘%desktop-services’? Did we ever resolve the issue where NetworkManager wouldn't automatically connect [1]? I haven't tried it recently. [1] https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/20

Re: NetworkManager instead of Wicd in ‘%desktop-services’?

2017-08-03 Thread Mark H Weaver
l...@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes: > Mark H Weaver skribis: > >> I've been using Network Manager with GNOME for several months at least, >> and generally I find it works very well, and reconnects much more >> quickly than wicd. > > Good. > >> However, there is one annoying bug: every time I r

Re: NetworkManager instead of Wicd in ‘%desktop-services’?

2017-08-02 Thread Mekeor Melire
Mark H Weaver writes: > l...@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes: > >> Now, as someone who doesn’t use GNOME, I wonder if NM would work well >> for me. Last time I tried it’s CLI was too low-level to be usable, and >> I don’t remember seeing a curses interface. Suggestions? > > There is a curses

Re: NetworkManager instead of Wicd in ‘%desktop-services’?

2017-08-02 Thread Adam Van Ymeren
Maxim Cournoyer writes: > l...@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes: > >> Maxim Cournoyer skribis: >> >>> I've noticed the same (lack of DNS resolution) following a reboot for >>> some minutes and was also wondering what was causing this. I'm using >>> wicd as part of the %desktop-services, so that

Re: NetworkManager instead of Wicd in ‘%desktop-services’?

2017-08-02 Thread Maxim Cournoyer
l...@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes: > Maxim Cournoyer skribis: > >> I've noticed the same (lack of DNS resolution) following a reboot for >> some minutes and was also wondering what was causing this. I'm using >> wicd as part of the %desktop-services, so that specific problem is >> probably no

Re: NetworkManager instead of Wicd in ‘%desktop-services’?

2017-07-31 Thread Mark H Weaver
l...@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes: > Maxim Cournoyer skribis: > >> I've noticed the same (lack of DNS resolution) following a reboot for >> some minutes and was also wondering what was causing this. I'm using >> wicd as part of the %desktop-services, so that specific problem is >> probably no

Re: NetworkManager instead of Wicd in ‘%desktop-services’?

2017-07-31 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Maxim Cournoyer skribis: > I've noticed the same (lack of DNS resolution) following a reboot for > some minutes and was also wondering what was causing this. I'm using > wicd as part of the %desktop-services, so that specific problem is > probably not related to NetworkManager. Our default nscd

Re: NetworkManager instead of Wicd in ‘%desktop-services’?

2017-07-31 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Mark H Weaver skribis: > l...@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes: > >> Mark H Weaver skribis: >> >>> I've been using Network Manager with GNOME for several months at least, >>> and generally I find it works very well, and reconnects much more >>> quickly than wicd. >> >> Good. >> >>> However, ther

Re: NetworkManager instead of Wicd in ‘%desktop-services’?

2017-07-31 Thread Maxim Cournoyer
Hi, Mark H Weaver writes: > l...@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes: > >> Shouldn’t we replace Wicd with NetworkManager in ‘%desktop-services’? >> >> I’ve given it a try on a GuixSD GNOME installation and it appears to >> work well, and it’s obviously well-integrated with GNOME, whereas Wicd >> is

Re: NetworkManager instead of Wicd in ‘%desktop-services’?

2017-07-31 Thread Mark H Weaver
l...@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes: > Mark H Weaver skribis: > >> I've been using Network Manager with GNOME for several months at least, >> and generally I find it works very well, and reconnects much more >> quickly than wicd. > > Good. > >> However, there is one annoying bug: every time I r

Re: NetworkManager instead of Wicd in ???%desktop-services????

2017-07-31 Thread Pjotr Prins
On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 06:52:55PM +, ng0 wrote: > But we're discussing desktop-environments here, not minimal stripped > down WMs and their use cases. > Do you suggest we tell people to just use the CLI or "add one of the > following choices of network connectivity tools and their services"? >

Re: NetworkManager instead of Wicd in ‘%desktop-services’?

2017-07-31 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Hi Mark, Mark H Weaver skribis: > I've been using Network Manager with GNOME for several months at least, > and generally I find it works very well, and reconnects much more > quickly than wicd. Good. > However, there is one annoying bug: every time I reboot the system, the > first 1-3 times i

Re: NetworkManager instead of Wicd in ‘%desktop-services’?

2017-07-31 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Jan Nieuwenhuizen skribis: > I would welcome some improvement here, or insight on my part. Since I > moved away from desktop environments, wicd has not not worked for me and > I have been using ifconfig, wpa_supplicant and dhclient manually. That > has removed my dependency on something like NM

Re: NetworkManager instead of Wicd in ‘%desktop-services’?

2017-07-30 Thread Kei Kebreau
l...@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes: > Hello Guix! > > Shouldn’t we replace Wicd with NetworkManager in ‘%desktop-services’? > > I’ve given it a try on a GuixSD GNOME installation and it appears to > work well, and it’s obviously well-integrated with GNOME, whereas Wicd > is a bit hidden (one ha

Re: NetworkManager instead of Wicd in ???%desktop-services????

2017-07-30 Thread ng0
Pjotr Prins transcribed 0.9K bytes: > On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 05:18:59PM +0200, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: > > Ludovic Court??s writes: > > > > > Now, as someone who doesn???t use GNOME, I wonder if NM would work well > > > for me. Last time I tried it???s CLI was too low-level to be usable, and >

Re: NetworkManager instead of Wicd in ???%desktop-services????

2017-07-30 Thread Pjotr Prins
On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 05:18:59PM +0200, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: > Ludovic Court??s writes: > > > Now, as someone who doesn???t use GNOME, I wonder if NM would work well > > for me. Last time I tried it???s CLI was too low-level to be usable, and > > I don???t remember seeing a curses interface

Re: NetworkManager instead of Wicd in ‘%desktop-services’?

2017-07-30 Thread Efraim Flashner
On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 04:50:58PM +0200, Ludovic Courtès wrote: > Hello Guix! > > Shouldn’t we replace Wicd with NetworkManager in ‘%desktop-services’? > > I’ve given it a try on a GuixSD GNOME installation and it appears to > work well, and it’s obviously well-integrated with GNOME, whereas Wic

Re: NetworkManager instead of Wicd in ‘%desktop-services’?

2017-07-30 Thread Mark H Weaver
l...@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes: > Shouldn’t we replace Wicd with NetworkManager in ‘%desktop-services’? > > I’ve given it a try on a GuixSD GNOME installation and it appears to > work well, and it’s obviously well-integrated with GNOME, whereas Wicd > is a bit hidden (one has to know what t

Re: NetworkManager instead of Wicd in ‘%desktop-services’?

2017-07-30 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Ludovic Courtès writes: > Now, as someone who doesn’t use GNOME, I wonder if NM would work well > for me. Last time I tried it’s CLI was too low-level to be usable, and > I don’t remember seeing a curses interface. Suggestions? I would welcome some improvement here, or insight on my part. Sinc

Re: NetworkManager instead of Wicd in ‘%desktop-services’?

2017-07-30 Thread ng0
Ludovic Courtès transcribed 0.6K bytes: > Hello Guix! > > Shouldn’t we replace Wicd with NetworkManager in ‘%desktop-services’? > > I’ve given it a try on a GuixSD GNOME installation and it appears to > work well, and it’s obviously well-integrated with GNOME, whereas Wicd > is a bit hidden (one

NetworkManager instead of Wicd in ‘%desktop-services’?

2017-07-30 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Hello Guix! Shouldn’t we replace Wicd with NetworkManager in ‘%desktop-services’? I’ve given it a try on a GuixSD GNOME installation and it appears to work well, and it’s obviously well-integrated with GNOME, whereas Wicd is a bit hidden (one has to know what to look for) and “foreign.” Thoughts