Re: Why [bug#47081] Remove mongodb?

2021-03-22 Thread Jack Hill
I don't have anything to add with respect to the process for package removeal, but for the completeness of the thread I'd like the observe that one of the packages that was removed (mongo-tools) was broken for over a year: https://issues.guix.gnu.org/39637 For the reasons Efraim pointed out,

Re: Why [bug#47081] Remove mongodb?

2021-03-22 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Hi Léo, Léo Le Bouter skribis: >> Removing a package and its services is not something to do lightly: >> it >> breaks user configs with no recourse. >> >> We must insist on getting more opinions on such matters, and I think >> there just wasn’t enough feedback here. I understand it can be >>

Re: Why [bug#47081] Remove mongodb?

2021-03-22 Thread Efraim Flashner
On Sun, Mar 21, 2021 at 11:15:32PM +0100, Léo Le Bouter wrote: > Hello! > > > Removing a package and its services is not something to do lightly: > > it > > breaks user configs with no recourse. > > > > We must insist on getting more opinions on such matters, and I think > > there just wasn’t

Re: Why [bug#47081] Remove mongodb?

2021-03-21 Thread Léo Le Bouter
Hello! > Removing a package and its services is not something to do lightly: > it > breaks user configs with no recourse. > > We must insist on getting more opinions on such matters, and I think > there just wasn’t enough feedback here. I understand it can be > frustrating to wait for input,

Re: Why [bug#47081] Remove mongodb?

2021-03-20 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Hi Léo, Léo Le Bouter skribis: > On Wed, 2021-03-17 at 17:56 +0100, zimoun wrote: >> If the removal for security reasons had been discussed on IRC, it >> could >> be nice to point the discussion here. Otherwise, open a discussion >> on >> the topic on guix-devel or bug-guix. The full removal

Re: Why [bug#47081] Remove mongodb?

2021-03-17 Thread zimoun
On Wed, 17 Mar 2021 at 20:11, Léo Le Bouter wrote: > On Wed, 2021-03-17 at 19:51 +0100, zimoun wrote: >> It shows exactly my point. The correct and polite way of doing the >> thing is first to examine the issue at hand (3.4.10 is old with >> security >> vulnerabilities), then propose a fix

Re: Why [bug#47081] Remove mongodb?

2021-03-17 Thread Léo Le Bouter
On Wed, 2021-03-17 at 19:51 +0100, zimoun wrote: > It shows exactly my point. The correct and polite way of doing the > thing is first to examine the issue at hand (3.4.10 is old with > security > vulnerabilities), then propose a fix (e.g., the removal), wait > feedback, > and complete. Actually

Re: Why [bug#47081] Remove mongodb?

2021-03-17 Thread Léo Le Bouter
The issue with 3.4.24 / 3.4.10 is that Efraim reverted the commit then it was briefly discussed on IRC and Efraim thought I was right about the licensing being fine on 3.4.24 and reverted their revert commit, after some actual checking in the tarball grepping for license headers I found out I was

Re: Why [bug#47081] Remove mongodb?

2021-03-17 Thread zimoun
On Wed, 17 Mar 2021 at 19:16, Léo Le Bouter wrote: > On Wed, 2021-03-17 at 18:56 +0100, zimoun wrote: >> AFAIT, 3.4.10 is released under GNU AGPL 3.0 and Apache 2.0. This >> version had been released before the October 16th, 2018. Could you >> point which code is non-free? >> >> IMHO, this

Re: Why [bug#47081] Remove mongodb?

2021-03-17 Thread Léo Le Bouter
On Wed, 2021-03-17 at 18:56 +0100, zimoun wrote: > AFAIT, 3.4.10 is released under GNU AGPL 3.0 and Apache 2.0. This > version had been released before the October 16th, 2018. Could you > point which code is non-free? > > IMHO, this claim about non-free code is wrong. The last versions > with

Re: Why [bug#47081] Remove mongodb?

2021-03-17 Thread zimoun
On Wed, 17 Mar 2021 at 18:09, Léo Le Bouter wrote: > On Wed, 2021-03-17 at 17:56 +0100, zimoun wrote: >> If the removal for security reasons had been discussed on IRC, it >> could >> be nice to point the discussion here. Otherwise, open a discussion >> on >> the topic on guix-devel or bug-guix.

Re: Why [bug#47081] Remove mongodb?

2021-03-17 Thread Léo Le Bouter
Sorry for duplicated email, On Wed, 2021-03-17 at 17:56 +0100, zimoun wrote: > If the removal for security reasons had been discussed on IRC, it > could > be nice to point the discussion here. Otherwise, open a discussion > on > the topic on guix-devel or bug-guix. The full removal is a radical

Re: Why [bug#47081] Remove mongodb?

2021-03-17 Thread Léo Le Bouter
On Wed, 2021-03-17 at 17:56 +0100, zimoun wrote: > If the removal for security reasons had been discussed on IRC, it > could > be nice to point the discussion here. Otherwise, open a discussion > on > the topic on guix-devel or bug-guix. The full removal is a radical > solution (especially, it

Why [bug#47081] Remove mongodb?

2021-03-17 Thread zimoun
Hi Léo, On Fri, 12 Mar 2021 at 01:56, Léo Le Bouter wrote: > mongodb 3.4.10 has unpatched CVEs and mongodb 3.4.24 has some files in the > release tarball under the SSPL, therefore we cannot provide mongodb while > upholding to good security standards. [...] > doc/guix.texi | 28