Re: proposal: guix-ment...@gnu.org list/alias

2022-06-22 Thread zimoun
Hi, On Wed, 22 Jun 2022 at 11:44, Ricardo Wurmus wrote: > Only two people have come forward as possible mentors (Ludo and I). > With only two potential mentors there’s no point in doing this as it’s > not sustainable. Add me as possible mentor. Well, I do not know if I am enough qualified for

Re: proposal: guix-ment...@gnu.org list/alias

2022-06-22 Thread Ricardo Wurmus
zimoun writes: > What is the status of this initiative? Only two people have come forward as possible mentors (Ludo and I). With only two potential mentors there’s no point in doing this as it’s not sustainable. > Therefore, how do we process next? We wait for volunteers. And if it turns

Re: proposal: guix-ment...@gnu.org list/alias

2022-06-22 Thread zimoun
Hi, What is the status of this initiative? On Wed, 01 Jun 2022 at 22:17, Ricardo Wurmus wrote: > to help new contributors get their first contribution into Guix I think > it would be good to do this: > > 1. create a new private mailing list or mailing alias guix-ment...@gnu.org > > 2. ask for

Re: proposal: guix-ment...@gnu.org list/alias

2022-06-09 Thread Paul Jewell
On 03/06/2022 12:53, jbra...@dismail.de wrote: I always use this website to remind myself how to use git send-email: https://git-send-email.io/ We could out that information in the guix manual or link to it. :) This is great - many thanks for sharing. I think a link in the manual would be

Re: proposal: guix-ment...@gnu.org list/alias

2022-06-06 Thread Maxim Cournoyer
Hello, Ricardo Wurmus writes: > Maxim Cournoyer writes: > >> We'd have to define what are 'new contributors' clearly so that it >> doesn't get flooded/abused though, since the "review" happens behind >> closed doors (in private). > > I’d still want to have the patches hit guix-patches and the

Re: proposal: guix-ment...@gnu.org list/alias

2022-06-03 Thread Ricardo Wurmus
Ludovic Courtès writes: > Hey! > > Ricardo Wurmus skribis: > >> I’d still want to have the patches hit guix-patches and the changes made >> by a mentor detailed there. guix-mentors is meant primarily as a >> coordination space for mentors — it’s how new contributors get a >> personal mentor

Re: proposal: guix-ment...@gnu.org list/alias

2022-06-03 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Hey! Ricardo Wurmus skribis: > I’d still want to have the patches hit guix-patches and the changes made > by a mentor detailed there. guix-mentors is meant primarily as a > coordination space for mentors — it’s how new contributors get a > personal mentor for the journey from raw contribution

Re: proposal: guix-ment...@gnu.org list/alias

2022-06-03 Thread zimoun
Hi, On Fri, 03 Jun 2022 at 13:48, Liliana Marie Prikler wrote: > 1. When a new contributor sends a mail to guix-patches, the mail gets > added to a manual approval queue. (This currently happens) > 2. A human operator manually approves of the patch as in flags it as > "Not spam" (This

Re: proposal: guix-ment...@gnu.org list/alias

2022-06-03 Thread Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
Liliana Marie Prikler 写道: So first things first, this would only apply to guix-patches (I believe), since that is where "contributions" as in "patches that need review" are sent to. My proposal is roughly as follows: 1. When a new contributor sends a mail to guix-patches, the mail gets

Re: proposal: guix-ment...@gnu.org list/alias

2022-06-03 Thread Liliana Marie Prikler
Hi Tobias, Am Freitag, dem 03.06.2022 um 13:21 +0200 schrieb Tobias Geerinckx- Rice: > Hi Lily, > > Liliana Marie Prikler 写道: > > That is once it's established that a new > > contribution is actually a contribution, the patch is forwarded > > separately to guix-mentors (along with reply-to: for

Re: proposal: guix-ment...@gnu.org list/alias

2022-06-03 Thread Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
Hi Lily, Liliana Marie Prikler 写道: That is once it's established that a new contribution is actually a contribution, the patch is forwarded separately to guix-mentors (along with reply-to: for the original bug etc. set up in a way that's useful to mentors), claiming takes place, and so on.

Re: proposal: guix-ment...@gnu.org list/alias

2022-06-03 Thread Ricardo Wurmus
Liliana Marie Prikler writes: > As a specific measure against potential abuse as well as a way of > helping out newcomers, what if instead of making new contributors CC > guix-mentors, we made it so that forwarding to guix-mentors is handled > by the spam filter? That is once it's established

Re: proposal: guix-ment...@gnu.org list/alias

2022-06-03 Thread Liliana Marie Prikler
Am Mittwoch, dem 01.06.2022 um 22:17 +0200 schrieb Ricardo Wurmus: > Hi, > > to help new contributors get their first contribution into Guix I > think it would be good to do this: > > 1. create a new private mailing list or mailing alias > guix-ment...@gnu.org > > 2. ask for experienced Guix

Re: proposal: guix-ment...@gnu.org list/alias

2022-06-03 Thread jbranso
June 2, 2022 4:00 AM, "Ricardo Wurmus" wrote: > zimoun writes: > >> Ah sorry, I overcomplicate the discussion. :-) > > Hah, no worries! It’s worth discussing this before we implement a > workflow that ends up being *more* confusing than the status quo. > >> To me, it could be nice to have a

Re: proposal: guix-ment...@gnu.org list/alias

2022-06-02 Thread Ricardo Wurmus
Maxim Cournoyer writes: > We'd have to define what are 'new contributors' clearly so that it > doesn't get flooded/abused though, since the "review" happens behind > closed doors (in private). I’d still want to have the patches hit guix-patches and the changes made by a mentor detailed there.

Re: proposal: guix-ment...@gnu.org list/alias

2022-06-02 Thread Maxim Cournoyer
Hi Ricardo, Ricardo Wurmus writes: > Hi, > > to help new contributors get their first contribution into Guix I think > it would be good to do this: > > 1. create a new private mailing list or mailing alias guix-ment...@gnu.org > > 2. ask for experienced Guix contributors who are committed to

Re: proposal: guix-ment...@gnu.org list/alias

2022-06-02 Thread Ricardo Wurmus
Ludovic Courtès writes: > Hello, > > Ricardo Wurmus skribis: > >> Mentors would then not merely review the submission but shepherd it, >> making necessary modifications and push the adjusted patches as soon as >> possible. The goal is not to do the usual review but to create >> quick

Re: proposal: guix-ment...@gnu.org list/alias

2022-06-02 Thread Ricardo Wurmus
Arun Isaac writes: > Perhaps I missed something in your email, but I have a question. Is this > new guix-mentors mailing list open to all contributions or only to > first-time contributions? If there are too many contributions sent to > guix-mentors, how do we manage the workload? This

Re: proposal: guix-ment...@gnu.org list/alias

2022-06-02 Thread Arun Isaac
Hi Ricardo, Perhaps I missed something in your email, but I have a question. Is this new guix-mentors mailing list open to all contributions or only to first-time contributions? If there are too many contributions sent to guix-mentors, how do we manage the workload? Regards, Arun

Re: proposal: guix-ment...@gnu.org list/alias

2022-06-02 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Hello, Ricardo Wurmus skribis: > Mentors would then not merely review the submission but shepherd it, > making necessary modifications and push the adjusted patches as soon as > possible. The goal is not to do the usual review but to create > quick successes, a great first impression. I’m all

Re: proposal: guix-ment...@gnu.org list/alias

2022-06-02 Thread Ricardo Wurmus
zimoun writes: > Ah sorry, I overcomplicate the discussion. :-) Hah, no worries! It’s worth discussing this before we implement a workflow that ends up being *more* confusing than the status quo. > To me, it could be nice to have a tiny script (or Guix extension or > subcommand), maybe in

Re: proposal: guix-ment...@gnu.org list/alias

2022-06-02 Thread zimoun
Hi Ricardo, On Thu, 02 Jun 2022 at 08:17, Ricardo Wurmus wrote: > I had a similar idea of moving this to the server and triggering an > email notification … but I didn’t want to overcomplicate the initial > proposal. It would indeed be better if a new contributor didn’t also > have to remember

Re: proposal: guix-ment...@gnu.org list/alias

2022-06-02 Thread Ricardo Wurmus
zimoun writes: >> 3. update the Contributing section in the manual (and the website) to >> suggest Cc-ing guix-ment...@gnu.org for a first contribution. > > Maybe instead of manually CC-ing guix-men...@gnu.org, we could have a > tiny script on the top of git-send-email which would add

Re: proposal: guix-ment...@gnu.org list/alias

2022-06-01 Thread Gábor Boskovits
zimoun ezt írta (időpont: 2022. jún. 2., Cs 0:13): > Hi, > > On Wed, 01 Jun 2022 at 22:17, Ricardo Wurmus wrote: > > > What do you think about this? > > This is a great idea! > I agree. Having this would be nice. > > > > 3. update the Contributing section in the manual (and the website) to >

Re: proposal: guix-ment...@gnu.org list/alias

2022-06-01 Thread zimoun
Hi, On Wed, 01 Jun 2022 at 22:17, Ricardo Wurmus wrote: > What do you think about this? This is a great idea! > 3. update the Contributing section in the manual (and the website) to > suggest Cc-ing guix-ment...@gnu.org for a first contribution. Maybe instead of manually CC-ing

proposal: guix-ment...@gnu.org list/alias

2022-06-01 Thread Ricardo Wurmus
Hi, to help new contributors get their first contribution into Guix I think it would be good to do this: 1. create a new private mailing list or mailing alias guix-ment...@gnu.org 2. ask for experienced Guix contributors who are committed to helping new contributors to subscribe to the list 3.