Re: Next/prev/first/last window in Z order

2010-12-09 Thread Doug Geoffray
Doug, I just launched word as the document area is a custom control. I put the mouse over the document window and brought up immed and typed: print typename(mouse.window.control) and I got "Control" as the result. Just to verify I then did: print mouse.window.type and got 11 which is cust

Re: Next/prev/first/last window in Z order

2010-12-09 Thread Doug Lee
Jon says he's seeing this issue on controls that WE calls custom controls. On Thu, Dec 09, 2010 at 10:14:08AM -0500, Ron Parker wrote: I just looked at the code, and the only reason you should ever fail to get a Control object for a window would be if the window itself isn't in the Window-Eyes

Re: Next/prev/first/last window in Z order

2010-12-09 Thread Ron Parker
I just looked at the code, and the only reason you should ever fail to get a Control object for a window would be if the window itself isn't in the Window-Eyes OSM for some reason. That should be fairly rare. On 12/9/2010 10:04 AM, Doug Lee wrote: Yes this is very helpful info. The only rem

Re: Next/prev/first/last window in Z order

2010-12-09 Thread Doug Geoffray
Doug, Are you saying not all Window object can derive a Control object? I've not see that if that is the case. But I have seen that the Next and Previous properties of a Control don't always return an object. Usually that means it is an overlap window or something. but if you are talking

Re: Next/prev/first/last window in Z order

2010-12-09 Thread Doug Lee
Yes this is very helpful info. The only remaining concern I can see is that my coworker, Jon, reports that not all windows have .control objects associated with them. On Thu, Dec 09, 2010 at 09:49:34AM -0500, Doug Geoffray wrote: Then yes, the Window.Control.Previous and Window.Control.Next will

Re: Next/prev/first/last window in Z order

2010-12-09 Thread Doug Geoffray
Then yes, the Window.Control.Previous and Window.Control.Next will get you the previous and next window in Z order (also commonly referred to as tab order). In fact when you use these properties, Window-Eyes simply calls the GetWindow function with either GW_HWNDPREV or GW_HWNDNEXT. You may a

Re: Next/prev/first/last window in Z order

2010-12-09 Thread Doug Lee
I don't know my coworker's exact use case, but one I can think of is when a control in focus is predictably labeled by the control prior to it in Z order, or the prior Static control in Z order, or less commonly, by the prior Static to the focused control's parent or grandparent. Screen readers so

Re: Next/prev/first/last window in Z order

2010-12-09 Thread Doug Geoffray
Hello Doug L, Regarding your Z order question... Can you give me a specific example what you are needing this for? Maybe that would help us give you a better idea of what you can currently do or something we could add in the future. Thanks, Doug G On 11/22/2010 3:33 PM, Doug Lee wrote: W

Re: WE and Accessibility IN Visual Studio 20100

2010-12-09 Thread Brandon Misch
from what i heard, all this will be fixed or accessible by window-eyes 8 wich is still not out even though gw has mentioned it a lot this year. On Dec 9, 2010, at 6:52 AM, RicksPlace wrote: > Hi: Any word on when WE may suppport the new accessibility hooks used by > Microsoft so we can use Vis

Re: WE and Accessibility IN Visual Studio 20100

2010-12-09 Thread Doug Geoffray
Rick, We have good news for you but I'm not ready to spill all the beans just yet. We'll be talking a lot about this shortly. Regards, Doug On 12/9/2010 6:52 AM, RicksPlace wrote: Hi: Any word on when WE may suppport the new accessibility hooks used by Microsoft so we can use Visual Studio

WE and Accessibility IN Visual Studio 20100

2010-12-09 Thread RicksPlace
Hi: Any word on when WE may suppport the new accessibility hooks used by Microsoft so we can use Visual Studio 2010 and subsequent versions of new MS Software like Silverlight? Everything is heading into Windows Presentation Foundation coding and away from the older Standard UI components for d