Re: [h-cost] 1968 SCA views of medieval clothing

2005-09-05 Thread Carolyn Kayta Barrows
The primary purpose of the Renaissance Faires I've been to, is to sell things. They're big crafts fairs with exotic trimmings. Granted, they tend to have a stage or two where people are performing. Granted, many individual participants, particpate only to dress up and do their acts, eithe

Re: Milia Davenport (was Re: [h-cost] 1968 SCA views of medieval clothing

2005-09-05 Thread Carolyn Kayta Barrows
Many of the brasses are not rubbings or photographs, Thanks. I'd forgotten about them. Do you know if these were taken from actual rubbings? CarolynKayta Barrows dollmaker, fibre artist, textillian www.FunStuft.com \\\ -@@\\\

RE: [h-cost] more Eleonora of Toledo

2005-09-05 Thread Wanda Pease
> > Hi All-- > > I'm new here and Eleonora of Toledo is one of my main interests > (15 years of > research and 364 pages into a manuscript about her...). > > AFAIK--That pic from the Hermitage, no matter what they say at the museum, > is a misidentification. It is NOT the wife of Duke Cosimo I de M

[h-cost] RE:Experimental Archaeology (was 1968 SCA views of medieva

2005-09-05 Thread Marc Carlson
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To clarify, I refered to "experiential" archaeology - that is learning things about the past by doing them. "Experimental" archeology is, as you say, something somewhat different. Looking back, I see that you are entirely correct. I misread your message. I apologize.

RE: [h-cost] 1968 SCA views of medieval clothing

2005-09-05 Thread otsisto
Thank you Sharon, basically what I was trying to say. De Brain fogged -Original Message- >Our two big tourneys are held at the group came at a local state park -- >which is very much a public site. The spectators do watch the fighting >from a distance -- many ask questions and some stay

RE: [h-cost] 1968 SCA views of medieval clothing

2005-09-05 Thread otsisto
The impression I had gotten from the email was that there were non-costumed individuals participating in SCA event not passers by. Apologies for the misunderstanding. De -Original Message- > SCA events in public parks draw non-costumed spectators too. > Quoting otsisto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[h-cost] more Eleonora of Toledo

2005-09-05 Thread monica spence
Hi All-- I'm new here and Eleonora of Toledo is one of my main interests (15 years of research and 364 pages into a manuscript about her...). AFAIK--That pic from the Hermitage, no matter what they say at the museum, is a misidentification. It is NOT the wife of Duke Cosimo I de Medici. It may be

Re: [h-cost] Experimental Archaeology (was 1968 SCA views of medieval clothing)

2005-09-05 Thread Lavolta Press
What makes it archaeology, as opposed to just learning a task or craft, even if one of the past? Fran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To clarify, I refered to "experiential" archaeology - that is learning things about the past by doing them. "Experimental" archeology is, as you say, something somewh

Re: [h-cost] Experimental Archaeology (was 1968 SCA views of medieval clothing)

2005-09-05 Thread eirenetz
To clarify, I refered to "experiential" archaeology - that is learning things about the past by doing them. "Experimental" archeology is, as you say, something somewhat different. Melanie in Denver (Eirene, OP in the SCA) > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Well, at a re-enactment weekend at Bent's

Re: [h-cost] Experimental Archaeology (was 1968 SCA views of medieval clothing)

2005-09-05 Thread Lavolta Press
Furthermore, I would think you'd have to be discovering something new (to modern eyes). For example, when the 20th person makes an 1850 chemise using original instructions and methods, and it's pretty much the same process for them as for the first 19 people, is it really experimental any more

Subject: RE: [h-cost] New to me Eleonora of Toledo

2005-09-05 Thread Cin
Subject: RE: [h-cost] New to me Eleonora of Toledo >> I can't wait to get my hands on a copy of this book. ... By the >> way - how did you pay for your copy or did you get it in Italy? >I paid for it using a credit card when I ordered it through Abe Books. >The cost was dependant on the exchange r

Re: [h-cost] 1968 SCA views of medieval clothing

2005-09-05 Thread Lavolta Press
The primary purpose of the Renaissance Faires I've been to, is to sell things. They're big crafts fairs with exotic trimmings. Granted, they tend to have a stage or two where people are performing. Granted, many individual participants, particpate only to dress up and do their acts, either

Re: [h-cost] 1968 SCA views of medieval clothing/Victorian tournament

2005-09-05 Thread Robin Netherton
On Mon, 5 Sep 2005, Suzi Clarke wrote: > "Eglington Tournament" which took place (or not!) in 1839. Albert, > Queen Victoria's husband, was very interested in the medieval period, > as were a number of people in England - hence all the Victorian Gothic > architecture. If you want to read more abo

RE: [h-cost] 1968 SCA views of medieval clothing

2005-09-05 Thread Sharon L. Krossa
At 10:01 AM -0500 9/5/05, Susan B. Farmer wrote: Quoting otsisto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: -Original Message- SCA events in public parks draw non-costumed spectators too. * Usually, these are refered to as demos, fighter practice or "recruitment"(for lack of a better word). "Eve

Re: [h-cost] 1968 SCA views of medieval clothing

2005-09-05 Thread Sharon L. Krossa
At 7:20 AM -0700 9/5/05, Carolyn Kayta Barrows wrote: As far as I know the first reenactment group in the UK was the Sealed Knot, which started with an event staged in 1968 to publicise a book on the Battle of Edgehill by Brig. Peter Young. I first heard the term "living history" when the SK star

[h-cost] Early Reenactments

2005-09-05 Thread Chris Laning
At 9:28 AM +0100 9/5/05, Suzi Clarke wrote: I don't know who or which group started the Living History thing in England, or whether the term Living History came from the U.S. However, I do remember going to a huge open air event in 1953, where history was celebrated by people dressing up. I bel

Re: [h-cost] 1968 SCA views of medieval clothing/Victorian tournament

2005-09-05 Thread Suzi Clarke
At 17:33 05/09/2005, you wrote: Hi, All. Regarding the SCA, since it takes it's atmosphere and inspiration from the Victorian view of the Middle Ages, one can look back to the late Victorian period to see an event scheduled by gentlemen of leisure for a tournament to be ridden using original

[h-cost] pageants was 1968 SCA views of medieval clothing

2005-09-05 Thread Jean Waddie
Suzi Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote I don't know who or which group started the Living History thing in England, or whether the term Living History came from the U.S. However, I do remember going to a huge open air event in 1953, where history was celebrated by people dressing up. I believ

Re: Subject: Re: [h-cost] fiber arts and making vs buying clothes

2005-09-05 Thread Jean Waddie
Thanks Debs. I was about to say, maybe it's a difference between US and UK - there is so much less sewing done here overall. I still boggle at the memory of finding fabric by the yard in WalMart in Connecticut! Adapting and decorating I can believe, making accessories from scratch, but for mo

Re: [h-cost] 1968 SCA views of medieval clothing

2005-09-05 Thread michael tartaglio
Hi, All. Regarding the SCA, since it takes it's atmosphere and inspiration from the Victorian view of the Middle Ages, one can look back to the late Victorian period to see an event scheduled by gentlemen of leisure for a tournament to be ridden using original and copied armor. IIRC, the event

Re: Milia Davenport (was Re: [h-cost] 1968 SCA views of medieval clothing

2005-09-05 Thread Robin Netherton
On Mon, 5 Sep 2005, Ann Catelli wrote: > Many of the brasses are not rubbings or photographs, And it really makes a difference. One of the brass images in Davenport (from King's Lynn, Norfolk -- either Braunche or Walsokne, I forget which she shows) has a crucial error in the decoration that mak

[h-cost] Experimental Archaeology (was 1968 SCA views of medieval clothing)

2005-09-05 Thread Marc Carlson
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, at a re-enactment weekend at Bent's Old Fort National Historic Site (SE Colorado) last month, the re-enactors that I spoke to indicated that most of their fellows had dabbled in the SCA, but since left for more authentic pastures. It seems likely that the SCA has,

Re: [h-cost] 1968 SCA views of medieval clothing

2005-09-05 Thread Lavolta Press
Perhaps, but if I were to describe a person involved in reenactment, I'd say that (a) they did it pretty regularly and (b) not as part of a theatrical performance. Fran I think it is difficult to determine what is "Re-enactment" and what is merely dressing up for an event or occasion. Su

Re: [h-cost] Early Reenactments

2005-09-05 Thread Lavolta Press
I've seen a lot of websites for people who want slaves. How's your black leather wardrobe? Fran I need to extend my ancient reenactment and buy a good slave Glenda ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.co

Re: [h-cost] 1968 SCA views of medieval clothing

2005-09-05 Thread Lavolta Press
There's always been a significant overlap between science fiction/fantasy readers, and reenactors. There are also a fair number of ex-hippies in the older reenactor generation. I think "dressing up" is a very significant factor here. In much of the US in the 1960s and early 1970s, things lik

Re: [h-cost] Early Reenactments

2005-09-05 Thread Lavolta Press
I know about masques, but was wondering if there was something closer to a modern reenactment. Fran http://www.lavoltapress.com Elizabeth Walpole wrote: Aren't there a couple of books from around the turn of the 17th century that feature drawings of costumes for a Masque (i.e. fancy dres

Re: [h-cost] 1968 SCA views of medieval clothing

2005-09-05 Thread Dawn
otsisto wrote: -Original Message- SCA events in public parks draw non-costumed spectators too. * Usually, these are refered to as demos, fighter practice or "recruitment"(for lack of a better word). "Events" are usually something on a much more grander scale and normally is

RE: [h-cost] 1968 SCA views of medieval clothing

2005-09-05 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting otsisto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: -Original Message- SCA events in public parks draw non-costumed spectators too. * Usually, these are refered to as demos, fighter practice or "recruitment"(for lack of a better word). "Events" are usually something on a much more grander

RE: [h-cost] 1968 SCA views of medieval clothing

2005-09-05 Thread Carolyn Kayta Barrows
SCA events in public parks draw non-costumed spectators too. * Usually, these are refered to as demos, fighter practice or "recruitment"(for lack of a better word). "Events" are usually something on a much more grander scale and normally is not posted to the regular public. I'm re

Re: [h-cost] 1968 SCA views of medieval clothing

2005-09-05 Thread Carolyn Kayta Barrows
As far as I know the first reenactment group in the UK was the Sealed Knot, which started with an event staged in 1968 to publicise a book on the Battle of Edgehill by Brig. Peter Young. I first heard the term "living history" when the SK started demonstrating crafts etc. in a period encampme

Re: Milia Davenport (was Re: [h-cost] 1968 SCA views of medieval clothing

2005-09-05 Thread Ann Catelli
Many of the brasses are not rubbings or photographs, i.e., 585. 1347 A.D. English. (Brass of Flemish workmanship.) (Elsing, Norfolk.) [i] Sir Hugh Hastings[/i]; 586, 592,593,594, 595, 596, 597, 600. Number 654, "1377. German. (Neckerstinach Chapel.) Brass. Ritter Helle Landschaden and Lady" is

Re: [h-cost] 1968 SCA views of medieval clothing

2005-09-05 Thread Kate M Bunting
As far as I know the first reenactment group in the UK was the Sealed Knot, which started with an event staged in 1968 to publicise a book on the Battle of Edgehill by Brig. Peter Young. I first heard the term "living history" when the SK started demonstrating crafts etc. in a period encampment

Re: [h-cost] Early Reenactments

2005-09-05 Thread Kate M Bunting
A Masque was not quite the same as a fancy-dress ball in that it specifically entailed a theatrical presentation, with both professional actors and high-ranking personages portraying characters, though of course it was not open to the general public. Kate Bunting Librarian and 17th century ree

RE: [h-cost] 1968 SCA views of medieval clothing

2005-09-05 Thread otsisto
-Original Message- SCA events in public parks draw non-costumed spectators too. * Usually, these are refered to as demos, fighter practice or "recruitment"(for lack of a better word). "Events" are usually something on a much more grander scale and normally is not posted to the

RE: [h-cost] I don't know art but I know what I like

2005-09-05 Thread otsisto
-Original Message- .(snip)and butcher's-glove weight. - I have a friend who use to make chainmail. he made the butcher's glove size links and a wee bit smaller. He would call this "insanemail" De ___ h-costume mailing list h-co