RE: [h-cost] re: effigy corset & whalebone

2005-09-10 Thread Wanda Pease
According to the site that I bought my Baleen from recently, it is the harvesting of baleen that is watched carefully. What I bought came with a certificate that it was "antique", pre-ban stuff. The walrus ivory was supposed to go only to native carvers, but the you could own it. I had a small p

[h-cost] RE: 16th Century Use of Leather

2005-09-10 Thread Marc Carlson
From: Karen R Bergquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I recently bought a big chunk of leather in a sort of silvery taupe shade. While the smooth side is nice, the color takes on a truly gorgeous quality on the suede side. Was the suede/flesh side of leather used in 16th century England, or was the smoother

Re: [h-cost] re: effigy corset & whalebone

2005-09-10 Thread Lloyd Mitchell
Like the 'feather trade' relating to the sale or trade of these products on the endangered species lists, I thought that only Native Americans or First Nation peoples were the only ones who have a legal right to collect and use them for cultural preservation. Was the State Senator involved in this

Re: [h-cost] re:effigy corst: reeds/bamboo for stiffening

2005-09-10 Thread Suzi Clarke
At 18:39 10/09/2005, you wrote: Suzi Clarke wrote: It's exactly the same as Farthingales sell, but a different gauge. It is a fraction of an inch narrower, so the connectors don't hold. In a cage hoop, which is what I originally wanted them for, this is a major problem. It might not be so mu

Re: [h-cost] re:effigy corst: reeds/bamboo for stiffening

2005-09-10 Thread WickedFrau
Suzi Clarke wrote: It's exactly the same as Farthingales sell, but a different gauge. It is a fraction of an inch narrower, so the connectors don't hold. In a cage hoop, which is what I originally wanted them for, this is a major problem. It might not be so much of a problem for a farthingale

RE: [h-cost] re: effigy corset & whalebone

2005-09-10 Thread Wanda Pease
I lived in Alaska for far too short a time: 1970-1972 but I happened to fall in with a "crash pad" style household that included ivory and native arts traders, a State Senator (occasionally), real estate salesman (wanna buy a genuine piece of Alaska?), etc. At that time I picked up a walrus tusk

Re: [h-cost] re:effigy corst: reeds/bamboo for stiffening

2005-09-10 Thread Suzi Clarke
At 16:11 10/09/2005, you wrote: *Here is one: http://tinyurl.com/7oglw (Dip & Grip)* Greenberg & Hammer also offers some in a 1/2 pint. I'd look it up for you, but their online store is down right now. Ask at a hardware store for "tool dip". Curious, what kind of steel bonin

Re: [h-cost] re:effigy corst: reeds/bamboo for stiffening

2005-09-10 Thread Lloyd Mitchell
Suzi, the product I use is "Plasti Dip". They can be found at www.plastidip.com. I found it at Home Depot, which by your location would probably not be a source. The product advertises itself for "auto,home and garden,RV.and marine, and for other power sports." (Note, not for costumers) But then

[h-cost] 16th Century Use of Leather

2005-09-10 Thread Karen R Bergquist
I recently bought a big chunk of leather in a sort of silvery taupe shade. While the smooth side is nice, the color takes on a truly gorgeous quality on the suede side. Was the suede/flesh side of leather used in 16th century England, or was the smoother hair side preferred? We are talking about u

Re: [h-cost] re:effigy corst: reeds/bamboo for stiffening

2005-09-10 Thread WickedFrau
*Here is one: http://tinyurl.com/7oglw (Dip & Grip)* Greenberg & Hammer also offers some in a 1/2 pint. I'd look it up for you, but their online store is down right now. Ask at a hardware store for "tool dip". Curious, what kind of steel boning do you get "over there?" Sg

Re: [h-cost] re:effigy corst: reeds/bamboo for stiffening

2005-09-10 Thread WickedFrau
I've tried it on enamel boning after cutting it...not that great, but better than the bare bone. I've never thought to use it on hoop wire. I usually put a metal tip on the end, but they are a booger to keep on, even with metal glue. I understand now there are joiners. I've seen them, but n

Re: [h-cost] re: effigy corset & whalebone

2005-09-10 Thread Lloyd Mitchell
In the New Bedford museum, I am remembering in particular, a hinged yarn winder that had some pieces that were at least a foot long. Were there teeth this long? Kathleen - Original Message - From: "Ann Catelli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturd

Re: [h-cost] re: effigy corset & whalebone

2005-09-10 Thread Ann Catelli
Whale teeth, from toothed whales, obviously, such at the very desirable sperm whale, and ivory, from walrus & other sources (also teeth, of course). Surely on other surfaces, too, but those are the materials I remember. A brief "googling" turns up ivory--whale teeth & walrus tusks--as a modern &

Re: [h-cost] re:effigy corst: reeds/bamboo for stiffening

2005-09-10 Thread Suzi Clarke
At 14:10 10/09/2005, you wrote: Do you use any "dip-it" also found in the hardware store to "pad" the ends? I used this (latex?) product with some good effect in preparing hoop wire before inserting it in the channels. Michaela wrote > > The biggest complaint I have heard > > about the cable

Re: [h-cost] re:effigy corst: reeds/bamboo for stiffening

2005-09-10 Thread Lloyd Mitchell
Do you use any "dip-it" also found in the hardware store to "pad" the ends? I used this (latex?) product with some good effect in preparing hoop wire before inserting it in the channels. Kathleen - Original Message - From: "michaela" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL P

Re: [h-cost] re: effigy corset & whalebone

2005-09-10 Thread Lloyd Mitchell
Am I really off the wall to be remembering that most/ much of traditional scrimshaw was done with whalebone? Especially the larger pieces? The whaling museum in New Bedford, Ma. might be a good site to answer this question. Kathleen - Original Message - From: "Cin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

RE: [h-cost] re: effigy corset & whalebone

2005-09-10 Thread Wanda Pease
I have a small baleen "frond" guaranteed to have been harvested pre-ban. You can also buy it legally from Alaskan natives or those with the right to harvest whales for survival. The butt end of this frond is about 3/4" thick and it is fairly rigid there. The whole thing reminds me of the descripti

Re: [h-cost] Moda a Firenze

2005-09-10 Thread Robin Netherton
On Fri, 9 Sep 2005, Wanda Pease wrote: > I'm not having a lot of luck ordering this from the museum. Someone > mentioned that they had gotten it through one of the on-line booksellers. > I've tried Bibiofind and bookfinder and no luck so I've probably remembered > it wrong. Try here: http://www