[h-cost] modes and manners

2006-02-18 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews
Hi, Anybody know of the etiquette for 18th century. When a man is presented to a lady, and he kisses her hand, does he then actually kis the hand, or does he just pretend that he is kissing the hand? I have done both, but not sure wich is correct. Bjarne Leif og Bjarne Drews www.my-drewsc

Re: Flemish (was RE: [h-cost] tippets ...

2006-02-18 Thread Chiara Francesca
http://www.imagesonline.bl.uk/britishlibrary-store/Components/34/3463_2.jpg This on has long been my favorite. I have been sketching and searching and sketching these dresses for years hoping to find the right event to make one for. Sigh, and the time. :( Thank you for the new images!!! :) C

Flemish (was RE: [h-cost] tippets ...

2006-02-18 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting otsisto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I hadn't thought of gores but I think you may be on to something here. This would solve some peoples problems with not having enough fabric of one color. :) It would be a hoot to do -- and you could carry that picture around with you and say -- "see! here

RE: [h-cost] tippets ...

2006-02-18 Thread otsisto
I hadn't thought of gores but I think you may be on to something here. This would solve some peoples problems with not having enough fabric of one color. :) I thought that the dress has a front panel because of the white dots running down the "seam". I haven't seen the weird flemish stuff. Got pict

RE: [h-cost] tippets ...

2006-02-18 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting otsisto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: -Original Message- http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Paintings/milano_ExpulsionJoachim150.jpg (Susan) these women are spectators, so I don't know how much the Special Garb rule applies here, but . The Italian GFD frequently has this sort of "inver

RE: [h-cost] tippets ...

2006-02-18 Thread otsisto
-Original Message- http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Paintings/milano_ExpulsionJoachim150.jpg (Susan) these women are spectators, so I don't know how much the Special Garb rule applies here, but . The Italian GFD frequently has this sort of "inverted scoop" neckline -- I'm not exactly s

RE: [h-cost] Bliaut silk natural dyed colour question

2006-02-18 Thread otsisto
Just opinion and not an expert in the period. If you achieved it with a period process, one can assume that it probably was available and possibly worn in that period. In the next century you find pink and pinkish garments in illuminations. I would say since it is a good color on you to not dye it

RE: [h-cost] Bliaut silk natural dyed colour question

2006-02-18 Thread Sharon at Collierfam.com
It may be a period color. Check out tapestries and/or carpets from that time. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sue Clemenger Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 1:02 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Bliaut silk natural dyed colo

RE: [h-cost] Bliaut silk natural dyed colour question

2006-02-18 Thread Sharon at Collierfam.com
Rose madder? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Deredere Galbraith Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 12:00 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] Bliaut silk natural dyed colour question Hi, Today I dyed silk for my 12th century bliaut

RE: [h-cost] 10th - 11th C. German

2006-02-18 Thread Sharon at Collierfam.com
Thanks! That makes a lot of sense. Sharon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Heather Rose Jones Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 10:07 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] 10th - 11th C. German > On Friday 17 February 2006 12:11

Re: [h-cost] Bliaut silk natural dyed colour question

2006-02-18 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting Deredere Galbraith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Hi, Today I dyed silk for my 12th century bliaut. And it got a shokking salmon pink. http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~triade2/tijdelijk/Bliautsilk.jpg I wonder if this would be right for that period. I dyed it with meekrap. I don't know the correct engl

Re: [h-cost] Bliaut silk natural dyed colour question

2006-02-18 Thread Diana Habra
> > In a message dated 2/18/2006 3:26:32 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > And it got a shokking salmon pink. > > > > > Well, you may have been shocked, but I think the salmon pick looks divine! > It beautiful. It doesn't look too saturated to not be per

Re: [h-cost] Bliaut silk natural dyed colour question

2006-02-18 Thread AlbertCat
In a message dated 2/18/2006 3:26:32 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And it got a shokking salmon pink. Well, you may have been shocked, but I think the salmon pick looks divine! It beautiful. It doesn't look too saturated to not be period. It looks

Re: [h-cost] Bliaut silk natural dyed colour question

2006-02-18 Thread Sue Clemenger
I think the plant you are referring to is known as "madder" in English. I've gotten colors similar to yours in my madder dyeing. It's pretty pH and temperature sensitive. I'm afraid I don't know enough about 12th century costume (and colors thereof) to be able to tell you about the historical accu

Re: [h-cost] Bliaut silk natural dyed colour question

2006-02-18 Thread Diana Habra
> Hi, > > Today I dyed silk for my 12th century bliaut. > And it got a shokking salmon pink. > http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~triade2/tijdelijk/Bliautsilk.jpg > I wonder if this would be right for that period. > > I dyed it with meekrap. I don't know the correct english name. That sounds like madder r

Re: [h-cost] Bliaut silk natural dyed colour question

2006-02-18 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting Deredere Galbraith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Hi, Today I dyed silk for my 12th century bliaut. And it got a shokking salmon pink. http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~triade2/tijdelijk/Bliautsilk.jpg I wonder if this would be right for that period. I think that the color is gorgeous! I dyed it wit

RE: [h-cost] Bliaut silk natural dyed colour question

2006-02-18 Thread Lalah
I have to agree with Betsy. The color is beautiful and looks great on you. If it were me I would go for it. Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- "Betsy Marshall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: "Betsy Marshall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 14:08:33 -0600 To: "'Historical Co

RE: [h-cost] Bliaut silk natural dyed colour question

2006-02-18 Thread Betsy Marshall
Don't know about correct for your project, but the color looks pretty good on you! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Deredere Galbraith Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 2:00 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] Bliaut silk natural dye

[h-cost] Bliaut silk natural dyed colour question

2006-02-18 Thread Deredere Galbraith
Hi, Today I dyed silk for my 12th century bliaut. And it got a shokking salmon pink. http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~triade2/tijdelijk/Bliautsilk.jpg I wonder if this would be right for that period. I dyed it with meekrap. I don't know the correct english name. It is a root that gives orange to red co

[h-cost] Re: Byzantine Dress

2006-02-18 Thread Beth and Bob Matney
I have the book. It just came in last week and I haven't had a chance to read it yet. It's a small book without terribly many pictures. Not a dress or costume manual... much more into theory. Beth Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 17:39:18 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] Byzantine Dress

Re: [h-cost] 10th - 11th C. German

2006-02-18 Thread Heather Rose Jones
On Friday 17 February 2006 12:11 am, Heather Rose Jones wrote: [snip] There isn't so much a "problem" with the neckline as that it's a rather unusually shaped neckline. The particular angle of the photograph is also not very good for seeing what's going on with the neck. Asymmetric "side-openi

Re: [h-cost] tippets ...

2006-02-18 Thread Susan B. Farmer
And while we're talking Italian Tippets . :-) I've got another picture for you, Robin. I just had to get it scanned -- and now seemed like a good time to do it! http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Paintings/milano_ExpulsionJoachim150.jpg these women are spectators, so I don't know how muc

Re: [h-cost] tippets ... Fwd: [SCA-Garb] Nice gown! (Italian fresco)

2006-02-18 Thread Becky
Thanks. The search results I got didn't fit into the images. I saw the sleeve drapes and didn't know what they were called. I've been learning quite a bit from the discussion boards and costume constructions. - Original Message - From: "Susan B. Farmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Historic

Re: [h-cost] Byzantine Dress

2006-02-18 Thread Heather Rose Jones
On Feb 17, 2006, at 2:39 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone heard about this Byzantine Dress book, or its author, Jennifer Ball? http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1403967008/103-0624918-7671817? v=glance&n=283155 It seems to have just been published. I sure wish I could afford it, a

Re: [h-cost] tippets ... Fwd: [SCA-Garb] Nice gown! (Italian fresco)

2006-02-18 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting Becky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I looked at the images and don't know what "tippets" are. Please explain. I googled it and found sites with shawls and scarves. What in the image is a tippet? See those "streamers" coming from her upper arm? Those are tippets. If you do a google *image* sea

Re: [h-cost] tippets ... Fwd: [SCA-Garb] Nice gown! (Italian fresco)

2006-02-18 Thread Becky
I looked at the images and don't know what "tippets" are. Please explain. I googled it and found sites with shawls and scarves. What in the image is a tippet? - Original Message - From: "Susan Farmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Costume List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 16