Ah Ha!
http://www.museothyssen.org/thyssen_ing/coleccion/obras_ficha_zoom605.html
I suppose one could argue this isn't a shirt, but I've never seen an under
dress with this kind of cuff...
Sg
FYI - If you ever need a hi res picture of this collection, they are very
helpful...a few years ago,
At 6:55 AM -0700 1/18/08, Saragrace Knauf wrote:
Ah Ha!
http://www.museothyssen.org/thyssen_ing/coleccion/obras_ficha_zoom605.html
I suppose one could argue this isn't a shirt, but I've never seen an
under dress with this kind of cuff...
The portrait shows the garment as being lined, however -
20th century, for european use.
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From: "Saragrace Knauf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 3:47 PM
Subject: RE: [h-cost] Found it! - Colored shirts in the 16th century?
In a message dated 1/18/2008 3:56:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Anyone know when shirt became applicable to "over the underwear" rather
than the first layer?
Well, it depends on whether it's cold or not, I would think.
And, y'know,
It could be a 'waistcoat' , sometimes called a 'shirt' in inventories,
meaning a layer for warmth. Usually you find them as flannen,
flannel, rarely lined silk, or sometimes linsey-woolsey, other
materials are possible, I'm just not at my resources. 2cents reading
out of context. Mari
On Jan 18
You do get colored shirts in the 19th century, but they are still underwear.
Meant to be worn under other clothing.
Ron Carnegie
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Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Found i
> Ah Ha!
> http://www.museothyssen.org/thyssen_ing/coleccion/obras_ficha_zoom605.html
>
> I suppose one could argue this isn't a shirt, but I've never seen an under
> dress with this kind of cuff...
This type of sleeve appears quite often in dress of Cologne. They are
separate sleeves (and here
In a message dated 1/18/2008 1:51:01 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This appears to be false sleeves and not sleeves of a hemd.
***
Indeed. I mean it's lined in red. Does that sound like a "shirt" or chimese?
**Start the year off right. Ea
In a message dated 1/18/2008 1:58:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
3. In a book I have about the Throckmortons (but I'm
at the office, not at home, of course), a gentleman's
letter to his factor requests a certain amount of
tawney fabric for a shirt. Whether we are t
Fair enough, but I don't think the query required it to be "underwear" per se.
Anyone know when shirt became applicable to "over the underwear" rather than
the first layer?
Sg
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> Subject: RE: [h-cost] Found
I have in my search for documentation on this subject
found 3, count'em, 3, but they're sketchy as evidence
goes.
1. King Edward VI's coronation shirtwas crimson or
scarlet (I forget which, but it was red). Presumably
this is not a good dample for the rest of us, since a)
he was a king and b) it w
This appears to be false sleeves and not sleeves of a hemd.
De
-Original Message-
Ah Ha!
http://www.museothyssen.org/thyssen_ing/coleccion/obras_ficha_zoom605.html
I suppose one could argue this isn't a shirt, but I've never seen an under
dress with this kind of cuff...
Sg
FYI - If you
Sharon wrote:
>At 6:55 AM -0700 1/18/08, Saragrace Knauf wrote:
>>Ah Ha!
>>http://www.museothyssen.org/thyssen_ing/coleccion/obras_ficha_zoom605.html
>>
>>I suppose one could argue this isn't a shirt, but I've never seen an
>>under dress with this kind of cuff...
>
>The portrait shows the garment a
In a message dated 1/18/2008 7:56:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Barthel_Bruyn_3.png
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Bartholom%C3%A4us_Bruyn_d._%C3%84._003
.jpg
I love the huge wide belts with enorm
On Jan 19, 2008, at 9:05 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 1/18/2008 7:56:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Barthel_Bruyn_3.png
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Bartholom%C3%A4us_Bruyn_d._%
C3%84._003
.jpg
On Saturday 19 January 2008, Heather Rose Jones wrote:
> On Jan 19, 2008, at 9:05 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I love the huge wide belts with enormous buckles. I've never
> > noticed them
> > before...such wide ones [that orange quilted one in the 1st pic is
> > fantastic!]
> > and worn in th
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