Re: [h-cost] organ/pipe pleats

2006-10-18 Thread Kimiko Small
Hiya, I am also working on a Tudor gown where I was also planning on doing a rolled pleat. I did my kirtle in a simple rolled pleat, and I know what you mean by it dropping straight from the waistline. I haven't noticed the horizontal wrinkling, as the pleats are in the back, and I can't s

RE: [h-cost] organ/pipe pleats

2006-10-18 Thread Kelly Grant
Hiya, You are thinking along the same thoughts as me on the shaping to achieve the rolled look without the horizontal pull, I can't wait to see finished pictures, so few people do this time period! As for the stuffing and possible ridge line, if you allow for the most stuffing at the point

[h-cost] organ/pipe pleats

2006-10-17 Thread E House
A feature common to a lot of the dresses in my era/area is a row of pleats falling from the waist at the back (but not the front or sides). I've been using rolled pleats taken in a rectangular piece of fabric for this, and they do a generally good jpb of giving the right look. But I've become

Re: [h-cost] Organ pipe pleats

2005-10-22 Thread WickedFrau
line info, and couldn't find the base. Can you offer guidance? - Original Message - From: WickedFrau<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Historical Costume<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 3:11 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Organ pipe pleats

Re: [h-cost] Organ pipe pleats

2005-10-22 Thread Nancy Kiel
I looked thru the Met's online info, and couldn't find the base. Can you offer guidance? - Original Message - From: WickedFrau<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Historical Costume<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 3:11 PM Subject: R

Re: [h-cost] Organ pipe pleats

2005-10-21 Thread WickedFrau
I'd say the major point was conspicuous consumption. I think they are very impressive looking especialy the ones where the pleats are alternating colors and sometimes have two colors stacked on top of each other. I am thinking mostly of the miliatary bases in this case, but I think I remember

Re: [h-cost] Organ pipe pleats

2005-10-20 Thread Kathryn Parke
This is fascinating -- thank you! It seems rather impractical, though -- does it provide extra warmth, perhaps, having all that extra fabric? Or was it just one more conspicuous consumption thing, do you suppose? I can certainly see how the men would appreciate looking that much more bulked-u

Re: [h-cost] Organ pipe pleats

2005-10-20 Thread WickedFrau
http://costume.dm.net/pleats/ http://www.heatherspages.net/images/flemish/rolled%20pleats.jpg http://home.znet.com/savaskan/germans/images/gerry-5.jpg I'll have to poke around for my tutorial on rolled pleatsI know I took the pictures for it...but I don't see it on my website...could have s

Re: [h-cost] Organ pipe pleats

2005-10-20 Thread Kathryn Parke
Would someone please be so kind as to provide a thumbnail description of either or both "organ pipe pleating" or "rolled pleating," or post an informative link or two? I can't even begin to picture what this might be... Thanks! KP WickedFrau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm not sure if you wan

Re: [h-cost] Organ pipe pleats

2005-10-20 Thread WickedFrau
I'm not sure if you want organ pipe pleating or rolled pleats documentation, but if it is the former, the Metropolitan Museum of Art has a military base which is organ pipe pleated (Early 16th century). Blanche Paynes "History of Costume" has a discussion and a pattern for it. I've spent some

[h-cost] Organ pipe pleats

2005-10-20 Thread Wendy Bliss
> > Has anyone on the list managed to find any examples of organ-pipe (rolled) > pleating prior to the 18th century? I agree that many of the styles of 15th > and 16th century clothing look like they use them, but for the life of me > (and despite two trips to Europe), I haven't been able to find a