Re: [h-cost] Shirone gown

2009-08-13 Thread appin1
o, closed it up CF, and it looked just like a regular 16/17th century gown. Those zany Victorians! Kathy Norvell -Original Message- From: Judy Mitchell To: Historical Costume Sent: Wed, Aug 12, 2009 4:20 pm Subject: Re: [h-cost] Shirone gown Cin wrote: > Thanks for all yo

Re: [h-cost] Shirone gown

2009-08-12 Thread Käthe Barrows
>well, mostly - except for the one comment that it's being displayed on > a mannekin that's too large, and I've heard from others also kinda lumpy > and distorted (but not 'pregnant' large or lumpy), has no one else > that's seen it noticed this? I should think an improper display would > c

Re: [h-cost] Shirone gown

2009-08-12 Thread Judy Mitchell
Cin wrote: > Thanks for all your comments on the Shinrone gown, everyone. > It's certainly more than I knew before & disappointing that there's not > much else to go on. If there's a paper or even a mention in CSA or Dress, > I'd like to have a heads up about it. Other than that, sounds like > e

Re: [h-cost] Shirone gown

2009-08-12 Thread Beth and Bob Matney
No, there isn't much out there. At my visit, I spoke with museum curatorial staff. I asked for copies of any conservation reports on the gown that they had, but they said that they could not find any. They had a new textile conservator, but her office is at the other museum (Barracks) and her

Re: [h-cost] Shirone gown

2009-08-12 Thread Cin
Thanks for all your comments on the Shinrone gown, everyone. It's certainly more than I knew before & disappointing that there's not much else to go on. If there's a paper or even a mention in CSA or Dress, I'd like to have a heads up about it. Other than that, sounds like everyone's sharing the

Re: [h-cost] Shirone gown

2009-08-11 Thread Beth and Bob Matney
Cynthia, I had a chance to examine (through glass) the gown last year in Dublin, where it is on display at the Museum of Archaeology. Kass' info is good. My notes: The Shinrone Gown Late 16th-early 17th century. Museum num. W5.) displayed on a form with full view of front and limited view of

Re: [h-cost] Shirone gown

2009-08-11 Thread appin1
e? Any ideas what it's for? I'm thinking maybe to support a small ruff? Kathleen Norvell -Original Message- From: Kimiko Small To: Historical Costume Sent: Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:32 pm Subject: Re: [h-cost] Shirone gown Hi Cynthia, Kass' info on the Shinrone gown is proba

Re: [h-cost] Shirone gown

2009-08-11 Thread Jackie Wyatt
>And as Kass mentions, it is not supposed to lace closed in front. It >really is cut that way, tho why I am still not sure. I've made two of these dresses and I have to agree with Kass's conclusions that it is a dress that can be adapted for pregnancy (though I've yet to try it on someone who

Re: [h-cost] Shirone gown

2009-08-10 Thread otsisto
The gown http://www.the-irish-path.com/images/shinrone_dress.jpg and a discription In 1843 a woman's dress was found buried in a bog near Shinrone, Co. Tipperary. It was believed to be from the sixteenth or seventeenth century. It was very well preserved. It was made of a brown woolen cloth. It co

Re: [h-cost] Shirone gown

2009-08-10 Thread Genie Barrett
At 03:32 PM 8/10/2009, you wrote: Hi Cynthia, Kass' info on the Shinrone gown is probably the most thorough I know of, I agree. Having seen the dress myself, Kass is pretty thorough. Her site is here: https://www.reconstructinghistory.com The Shinrone article: https://www.reconstructinghis

Re: [h-cost] Shirone gown

2009-08-10 Thread Kimiko Small
Hi Cynthia, Kass' info on the Shinrone gown is probably the most thorough I know of, as she handled the gown herself, and most of the rest I've seen is usually based on written descriptions of the garment and two photos in one book (Dress in Ireland). I know from having made my own many years a

[h-cost] Shirone gown

2009-08-10 Thread Cin
Ladies (and a few gents), Have any of you got informative comments to share on the Shirone gown? I'm looking at the front and wondering whether that placket is * cut on the straight grain like a Henrican kirtle & distorted with age, wear and/or burial * cut on the straight CF but folded back in a