Re: [h-cost] Silk Tulle, Chiffon, Organza

2006-02-22 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews
D]> Reply-To: Historical Costume <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [h-cost] Silk Tulle, Chiffon, Organza Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 14:46:17 +0100 Hi- Well i never dreamed of that it excisted either, untill i saw it with my own ey

Re: [h-cost] Silk Tulle, Chiffon, Organza

2006-02-22 Thread Nancy Kiel
lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [h-cost] Silk Tulle, Chiffon, Organza Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 14:46:17 +0100 Hi- Well i never dreamed of that it excisted either, untill i saw it with my own eyes. But it also is expensive...

[h-cost] Silk Tulle, Chiffon, Organza

2006-02-21 Thread Debloughcostumes
re organdy / organza - the first time I mentioned it I meant it was the closest sounding word, not that it was the closest fabric (it's not). gauze is definitely around from the 13th century (approx), but it's naturally hard to tell whether it was the same fabric as later gauze - that it was ve

Re: [h-cost] Silk Tulle, Chiffon, Organza

2006-02-21 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews
bruary 21, 2006 12:06 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Silk Tulle, Chiffon, Organza I really haven't seen linen this fine in England. Maybe I haven't looked hard enough. On 21/02/06, Bjarne og Leif Drews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Yes that linen i told you about some time ago,

Re: [h-cost] Silk Tulle, Chiffon, Organza

2006-02-21 Thread Caroline
ally is transparent. > > Bjarne > > - Original Message - > From: "Joan Jurancich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 1:53 AM > Subject: Re: [h-cost] Silk Tulle, Chiffon, Orga

Re: [h-cost] Silk Tulle, Chiffon, Organza

2006-02-21 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews
esday, February 21, 2006 1:53 AM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Silk Tulle, Chiffon, Organza Linen also can be fine enough to be transparent. Joan At 01:33 PM 2/20/2006, you wrote: Why Joan - however fine linen gets I've never seen it transparent. Silk can be transparent and is evidenced in the arc

Re: [h-cost] Silk Tulle, Chiffon, Organza

2006-02-20 Thread Ailith Mackintosh
) that indicates the country of origin. It's packed away and I can't get to it. When I can locate it, I'll post what the stamp says. kate - Original Message - From: "Caroline" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [h-cost] Silk Tulle, Chiffon, Organza

2006-02-20 Thread Joan Jurancich
Linen also can be fine enough to be transparent. Joan At 01:33 PM 2/20/2006, you wrote: Why Joan - however fine linen gets I've never seen it transparent. Silk can be transparent and is evidenced in the archaeological record. It is only these women where the veil appears transparent - all the

Re: [h-cost] Silk Tulle, Chiffon, Organza

2006-02-20 Thread Caroline
Why Joan - however fine linen gets I've never seen it transparent. Silk can be transparent and is evidenced in the archaeological record. It is only these women where the veil appears transparent - all the other pictures I have looked at for example Holkham PBB http://tinyurl.com/rlwa6 the Mac

Re: [h-cost] Silk Tulle, Chiffon, Organza

2006-02-20 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews
words chiffon, organza was invented in 19th century, but i think the fabrics are older with different names. Bjarne - Original Message - From: "Caroline" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 7:19

Re: [h-cost] Silk Tulle, Chiffon, Organza

2006-02-20 Thread Joan Jurancich
I would expect the wimples and veils to be fine linen, in this case. Joan At 12:56 PM 2/20/2006, you wrote: The reason I ask is that I have been looking at the ladies on the Luttrell Psalter and it is clear both mother and daughter on the knight on horseback page are wearing both wimples and ve

Re: [h-cost] Silk Tulle, Chiffon, Organza

2006-02-20 Thread Caroline
The reason I ask is that I have been looking at the ladies on the Luttrell Psalter and it is clear both mother and daughter on the knight on horseback page are wearing both wimples and veils. The fabric drawn is a transparent white and the only thing I can think it is chiffon or tulle. There are

Re: [h-cost] Silk Tulle, Chiffon, Organza

2006-02-20 Thread Robin Netherton
On Mon, 20 Feb 2006, Caroline wrote: > I believe all of the above fabrics can be made from silk but does > anyone know when the earliest examples of them stem from? > > Are they 12th or 20th century inventions. Just curious to know. I'd like to know, too, whether anyone doing historic costume

[h-cost] Silk Tulle, Chiffon, Organza

2006-02-20 Thread Caroline
I believe all of the above fabrics can be made from silk but does anyone know when the earliest examples of them stem from? Are they 12th or 20th century inventions. Just curious to know. -- Caroline "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing." G B Shaw