Re: [h-cost] Corset boning with zip ties

2009-03-02 Thread michaela de bruce
Love them. Just make sure to use them like you would reeds or baleen: ie every channel or every second channel. And make sure to bone the entire thing or get some additional support in there. Metal is a newer material and essentially allowed for a lot of cutting back of the amount of boning require

Re: [h-cost] Corset boning with zip ties

2009-03-01 Thread Elena House
They do work well; they just have different properties than other types of boning. Zip/cable ties provide much lighter support and stiffening than steel of the same thickness. They bend more easily, which makes them ideal for the areas of a corset where you want the corset to shape itself to the

Re: [h-cost] Corset boning with zip ties

2009-03-01 Thread Kimiko Small
put on over it. They are only now being replaced with an effigy style body, made with flat oval reeds this time. I wanted to see how well reeds hold up in comparison. Kimiko --- On Sun, 3/1/09, Penny Ladnier wrote: > From: Penny Ladnier > Subject: [h-cost] Corset boning with zip ties &g

Re: [h-cost] Corset boning with zip ties

2009-03-01 Thread Carol Huff
Hi I made a set--works very nicely..and I'm not small. I cut the ends off and rounded them. They are in two layers of canvas... Ta Carol ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume

Re: [h-cost] Corset boning with zip ties

2009-03-01 Thread Joan Jurancich
At 06:11 PM 3/1/2009, you wrote: If you are a size 22, these are not strong enough for a corset. I tried. Susan I'm about a size 22 and they worked fine for me. I just made certain that the boning was pretty solid. Joan Jurancich joa...@surewest.net _

Re: [h-cost] Corset boning with zip ties

2009-03-01 Thread Joan Jurancich
At 05:52 PM 3/1/2009, you wrote: What a clever idea! However, does it retain any kind of shaping to the wearers silhouette? Sidney I haven't noticed any problem with that. Joan Jurancich joa...@surewest.net ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@

Re: [h-cost] Corset boning with zip ties

2009-03-01 Thread Joan Jurancich
At 05:40 PM 3/1/2009, you wrote: There is an interesting topic on the USITT costume designers email list about using zip ties for stays in corsets. Has anyone tried this? Here is a URL for an example: http://s214.photobucket.com/albums/cc94/CaraGreenleaf/Chain%20and%20Dresses/?action=view¤t=C

Re: [h-cost] Corset boning with zip ties

2009-03-01 Thread Robin Betzhold
I had made many corsets with duct ties. There's a big difference in stiffness between duct ties and zip ties. Duct ties are with the air conditioning stuff at home depot. They're about 1/2" wide and I usually buy the ones that are 36" long. I love working with them because they're easy to trim with

Re: [h-cost] Corset boning with zip ties

2009-03-01 Thread e...@huskers.unl.edu
This is a zip-tie corset: http://anvil.unl.edu/emma/clothing/images/undies2large.jpg http://anvil.unl.edu/emma/clothing/images/undieslarge.jpg I find zip ties to be a little bulky, and I've had problems with them wearing through the fabric pretty quickly. However, I've only just now made my firs

Re: [h-cost] Corset boning with zip ties

2009-03-01 Thread Susan Data-Samtak
If you are a size 22, these are not strong enough for a corset. I tried. Susan On Mar 1, 09, at 8:40 PM, Penny Ladnier wrote: There is an interesting topic on the USITT costume designers email list about using zip ties for stays in corsets. Has anyone tried this? Here is a URL for

Re: [h-cost] Corset boning with zip ties

2009-03-01 Thread Sid Young
What a clever idea! However, does it retain any kind of shaping to the wearers silhouette? Sidney On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Penny Ladnier wrote: > There is an interesting topic on the USITT costume designers email list > about using zip ties for stays in corsets. Has anyone tried this?

[h-cost] Corset boning with zip ties

2009-03-01 Thread Penny Ladnier
There is an interesting topic on the USITT costume designers email list about using zip ties for stays in corsets. Has anyone tried this? Here is a URL for an example: http://s214.photobucket.com/albums/cc94/CaraGreenleaf/Chain%20and%20Dresses/?action=view¤t=Corsetbonesuncut.jpg The professors

Re: [h-cost] corset boning

2006-12-06 Thread michaela
> "However, whalehone, like plastic, adapts to the body shape > over time; and I have some old instructions about turning the bones > over when that happens." Firstly thanks to Fran for bring this up. It's been told tiem and time again to communities where there is a negative attitude to plastic

Re: [h-cost] corset boning

2006-12-06 Thread Zuzana Kraemerova
"However, whalehone, like plastic, adapts to the body shape over time; and I have some old instructions about turning the bones over when that happens." That's why I thought about combinating plastic and metal. At least for the back and the front of the corset I'd use something like spring ste

Re: [h-cost] corset boning

2006-12-06 Thread Lavolta Press
The thing is--the modern costuming community is subject to trends and fads. Plastic corset boning isn't currently trendy, though almost any other kind is. It is, however, incorrect to assume that a corset needs bones like something you'd use to support the Golden Gate Bridge. The period way t

Re: [h-cost] corset boning

2006-12-06 Thread Lavolta Press
There seem to be a couple ways to wear drag. One is as a serious attempt by a male to look like a female; the other is camp, or essentially a costume joke. I still remember the team of (all genuine) ex-Marines in miniskirts who had an act goose-stepping balletically together down Market Stree

Re: RE: [h-cost] corset boning

2006-12-06 Thread Zuzana Kraemerova
I like Vena cava design - I can actually order only from the UK companies, as the American or Canadian have too expensive shipping to Europe. I think VC design have everything necessary, including the spiral steel bones or many sorts of plastic and steel boning. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a

Re: RE: [h-cost] corset boning

2006-12-06 Thread Debloughcostumes
In a message dated 06/12/2006 13:38:52 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > My favorite corset supply on-line order place is Farthingales (mostly > because I'm in northern Ohio, and they're just over the border in Canada so > the > shipping is very very quick): you can see their spi

Re: [h-cost] corset boning

2006-12-06 Thread Deredere Galbraith
Maybe you could use the man's corset pattern from Laughing moon http://www.lafnmoon.com/113_underbust_corset.html One of the mistakes a lot of travesties make is that they use to much makeup. And colors that are too hard. Greetings, Deredere Lavolta Press wrote: If it as a modern woman

RE: [h-cost] corset boning

2006-12-05 Thread sunshine_buchler
> I've a question for all corset makers here: which kind of > boning (steel or plastic) would you use for a Victorian - > style corset (if not a real whalebone)? And generally, what > experiences do you have when using steel or plastic boning? > Do you mix them as well? > I'd really like t

Re: [h-cost] corset boning

2006-12-05 Thread aquazoo
When discussing plastic corset boning, remember there are several types of plastic available. There is a "featherboning" that is often sold with a fabric covering, Wissner that comes in a couple of widths and thicknesses (and is supposed to be similar to whalebone), and Rigiline. Rigiline i

Re: [h-cost] corset boning

2006-12-05 Thread Lavolta Press
If it as a modern woman, a Victorian corset is not the thing. Speaking as a resident of San Francisco, I can say that the things that really give away a transvestite are the size and shape of the hands and wrists, the size of the shoulders, and often the shape of the jaw. Fran I haven't pick

Re: [h-cost] corset boning

2006-12-05 Thread E House
Longer post w/pics later tonight cos I'm about to go run errands, but in the late victorian/edwardian era there are men's corsets--you might want to base the one you make on them, at least in terms of design & construction, if not shape. (They were generally marketed towards older military men,

Re: [h-cost] corset boning

2006-12-05 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews
the corset, not under. Bjarne - Original Message - From: "Zuzana Kraemerova" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 9:27 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] corset boning I haven't picked out any

Re: [h-cost] corset boning

2006-12-05 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews
larke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 8:54 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] corset boning At 19:08 05/12/2006, you wrote: Whalebone is now illegal, but the support and flexibility of the old stuff are pretty

Re: [h-cost] corset boning

2006-12-05 Thread Zuzana Kraemerova
I haven't picked out any exact pattern or image, I don't know exactly how the corset is going to look like yet. The basic idea is of a corset without gussets (or with as little as possible), with rather vertical seams. I got a very special (and very funny, too) order from a man who bet with s

Re: [h-cost] corset boning

2006-12-05 Thread Lavolta Press
You can actually purchase whalebone legally from Inuit traders. This was on a discussion list I was looking at last week. I have a bundle of genuine corset whalebone inherited from an elderly corsetiere, ands while it is flexible like modern plastic boning, which I like for other periods, t

Re: [h-cost] corset boning

2006-12-05 Thread Suzi Clarke
At 19:08 05/12/2006, you wrote: Whalebone is now illegal, but the support and flexibility of the old stuff are pretty similar to modern plastic boning. Fran I use spiral steel for all Victorian era corsets, with straight steels either side the lacing holes, and a steel busk in the centre fro

Re: [h-cost] corset boning

2006-12-05 Thread Lavolta Press
Whalebone is now illegal, but the support and flexibility of the old stuff are pretty similar to modern plastic boning. Fran I use spiral steel for all Victorian era corsets, with straight steels either side the lacing holes, and a steel busk in the centre front if required. I would never u

Re: [h-cost] corset boning

2006-12-05 Thread Suzi Clarke
At 18:09 05/12/2006, you wrote: What style of Victorian corset do you plan to make? Do you have a pattern/image picked out? How regularly do you plan to wear the corset--will it be a daily thing, on the weekends, a few times a year, or only once? -E House I use spiral steel for all Victor

Re: [h-cost] corset boning

2006-12-05 Thread E House
What style of Victorian corset do you plan to make? Do you have a pattern/image picked out? How regularly do you plan to wear the corset--will it be a daily thing, on the weekends, a few times a year, or only once? -E House PS-- you might want to join http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Historical_

Re: [h-cost] corset boning

2006-12-05 Thread Lavolta Press
The more you tight lace/squish in, the more you need steel. If you are looking for a period silhouette without tight lacing, plastic works just fine. When I make corsets, I use plastic corset boning for everything except a busk, as I am not overweight, have an average bust size, and have no d

[h-cost] corset boning

2006-12-05 Thread Zuzana Kraemerova
Hi, I've a question for all corset makers here: which kind of boning (steel or plastic) would you use for a victorian - style corset (if not a real whalebone)? And generally, what experiences do you have when using steel or plastic boning? Do you mix them as well? I'd really like to hea

[h-cost] corset boning, was Re:18c

2006-01-30 Thread aquazoo
Somewhere there's got to be a FAQ... On 18cWoman (a Yahoo group) we've discussed boning materials a number of times. "Plastic" covers a wide range of things, from the prom gown featherboning to various weights of the German plastic which is supposed to most closely resemble whalebone in