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Subject: Re: [h-cost] medieval quote on underwear
Not just castl
Not just castles. At New Year our music group played for two days in a 17th
century cottage at the Weald & Downland Open-air Museum. Luckily the weather
wasn't freezing as it had been for a spell after Christmas, but even with a log
fire we were none too warm (especially with the door being cons
JAMES OGILVIE wrote:
One of the winter calendar pages of the Tres Riches Heures shows women and men
doing this and none of them are wearing any underwear.
I'd have to say that none of them are _obviously_ wearing drawers.
--
Adele de Maisieres
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Yes, and I will look for a picture I have seen where there are women
pulling up their skirst to warm their feet/legs at a fire in a room. It
is almost a "cut away" picture as if to show the scene of the village,
but what is going on inside the buildings as well.
One of the winter calendar pa
Yes, and I will look for a picture I have seen where there are women
pulling up their skirst to warm their feet/legs at a fire in a room. It
is almost a "cut away" picture as if to show the scene of the village,
but what is going on inside the buildings as well. I think I said this
recently
Don't forget too that most castles in Britain at least would have had
plaster on the walls and tapestry or other woollen hangings to help with the
heat insulation. Rooms deviod of furniture and people also feel much colder
and damper. I am sure I was once told that each human body generates as
mu
Audrey Bergeron-Morin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
I have spent the weekend at an event
in an English castle and I can tell you they are still damp.
Were there any fires inside? Most of the castles we visited in France
were damp and cold, but twice we visited castles where the chimneys
had been re
> I have spent the weekend at an event
> in an English castle and I can tell you they are still damp.
Were there any fires inside? Most of the castles we visited in France
were damp and cold, but twice we visited castles where the chimneys
had been restored so they'd made a fire inside - makes a w
Well, I certainly am not in any position to debate the validity of
the "mini Ice Age" theory but, I have spent the weekend at an event
in an English castle and I can tell you they are still damp. As for
cold I still hold that it is a matter of perspective I grew up in
Ottawa, Canada and to me
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Several people have brought up the question of cold climate with the idea
that drawers would be logical/necessary for warmth. Just as one data
point, I routinely go without underwear when in costume, and I have never
noticed any chill up the skirts; the only parts I've noticed to suffer in
Heather's point about drawers/braies/breeches = masculinity is paramount.
Beyond that, though, the lack of underwear on women is not nearly so
"impractical" as some people seem to assume.
To begin with, it's worth noting that underwear worn with a long skirt can
make toileting really awkward, esp
On Jan 10, 2006, at 11:40 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And why was it more common for men to wear underwear and not women?
I betcha I'm going to be quite embarassed by the obvious reasons. :-)
There's a lot of evidence that medieval Europeans considered
underpants to represent "masculinity
If you are pregnant or breastfeeding you are unlikely to have monthly
cycles. Admitted women who are not sexually active won't be pregnant much
but once you take nuns out of the equasion most women wouldn't need sanitary
protection much during their life.
On 10/01/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PR
Up until recently...like the late 1960's, women didn't need underwear to
deal with the products used during their cycles. Belts and rags were the
choice of the day.
Since skirts were worn by women, and their smocks, shifts, chemises were
long enough to protect their dresses from any body dirt,
But Danielle, I was under the impression with reading and the History Channel,
that during the Medieval and Renaissance periods Europe was going through what
historians/scientists considered a "mini Ice Age". Plus, my finace' who was
stationed in Europe has mentioned that when he was involved
I got "The Letters of Abelard and Heloise" for Christmas, and was
interested to come across this quote today. Heloise is asking Abelard
to draw up a rule for her convent, pointing out that the existing
monastic Rule of St Benedict makes no provision for nuns, so they cannot
follow it properly
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