Re: [Haifux] [HELP HELP] Uses of Linux in the real world

2009-11-01 Thread Yossi Gil
Hi all, If I guess correctly, the lecture is for students of the SSDL laboratory. One of the main reasons I decided to place Linux in the lab is so that the students, especially those in the Software Engineering track, are exposed to an operating system in which all major, serious (not toy VBA)

Re: [Haifux] [HELP HELP] Uses of Linux in the real world

2009-11-01 Thread Yossi Gil
The other side of the coin is that the purpose of the W2L from Haifux's point of view is PR for Haifux itself, making the experience more enjoyable to us all, by injecting new blood of speakers and listeners. Users who care for the Windows experience are not likely to be any of those.

Re: [Haifux] [HELP HELP] Uses of Linux in the real world

2009-11-01 Thread Yossi Gil
Shahar is a subscriber. I suggest he speaks up... 2009/11/1 Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com Are they allowed to download it at all? No, but there are work arounds. However, it takes a full hour to download a lecture as it can only be downloaded in realtime. And they are hundreds of

Re: [Haifux] [HELP HELP] Uses of Linux in the real world

2009-10-31 Thread Yossi Gil
Hi. Take note that ALL book readers (kendalls and the such) work on Linux. Nokia is moving to Linux. Western Digital MyBook disks use Linux. Google Data Centers are all Linux based. More to come. 2009/10/31 Vadim Eisenberg vadim.eisenb...@gmail.com: Eli, Will you teach anything specific to

[Haifux] Reminder: Pizzas and Sodas on Thursday (tomorrow)

2009-02-18 Thread Yossi Gil
See you all there... SSDL, 2nd floor, Taub Building. ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux

Re: [Haifux] The 10th tip?

2009-02-07 Thread Yossi Gil
On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 8:09 AM, Dave Roi david...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with you, but then you give a double standard. It's OK for them to have silk gloves when they use Windows but it's not OK when they use Linux. OK... I see your point. The tough question is how to put the silk gloves on,

Re: [Haifux] The 10th tip?

2009-02-07 Thread Yossi Gil
Thanks for all the tips and information. Here is what I have for now: 4 GUI tips, 5 shell tips, and 2 tips for more information. I did not include the firefox tips yet, since I think these deserve a separate page.* * * * *יא טיפים לעבודה בלינוקס* א. *העתק הדבק מהיר**: *אמנם ניתן לעשות

Re: [Haifux] The 10th tip?

2009-02-07 Thread Yossi Gil
On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: I have worked in a mechanical garage for six years. I know to rebuild engines, replace entire steering / braking systems, replace almost anything electrical in the vehicle, replace trim components, and of course how to

Re: [Haifux] The 10th tip?

2009-02-07 Thread Yossi Gil
to take a break. Sounded very ridiculous when I first saw it, but I once tried it and it actually is quite helpful. 2009/2/7 Yossi Gil yossi@gmail.com Thanks for all the tips and information. Here is what I have for now: 4 GUI tips, 5 shell tips, and 2 tips for more information. I did

Re: [Haifux] The 10th tip?

2009-02-07 Thread Yossi Gil
On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 4:17 PM, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: You might want to asdd a mention of Sticky Keys: the ability to hit Shift _then_ a letter instead of having to hold shift. This ability has sped up my typing speed considerably. It is not unique to Linux, but it is better

[Haifux] Advance warning.

2009-02-06 Thread Yossi Gil
Folks, FYI, this is the message I posted today to the SSDL mailing list. כחלק מהמאמצים לשיפור השירות במעבדה, יצרנו קשר עם מועדון הלינוקס החיפאי, ורבים מהם שמחים לאמץ אותנו ואתכם - לשמוע,

Re: [Haifux] Linux + Hebrew?

2009-02-06 Thread Yossi Gil
At the time i used Windows more regularly, I preferred, whenever possible to use the Hebrew version of the software, including Hebrew OS menus and application menus. This was not a coincidence. The localization of Windows was the best you can think of, and I think we should pay tribute to

Re: [Haifux] The 10th tip?

2009-02-06 Thread Yossi Gil
Folks, I realize the document I made was not sent, since this list does not take attachments. Here it goes. *10 **טיפים לעבודה בלינוקס* א. אמנם ניתן לעשות בלינוקס העתק הדבק כמו בחלונות, כלומר, סמן, הקש CTRL-C, עבור למקום החדש, והקש CTRL-V. אבל, יש דרך הרבה יותר מהירה: סמן את הקטע, עבור

Re: [Haifux] Needed: Laptop+Firefox+Jabber for today

2009-02-02 Thread Yossi Gil
Just to say that I wish you had a great meeting. Sorry I could not attend. Maybe in some other time. On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/2/2 Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda ladyp...@gmail.com: Hi all, If anyone coming has a laptop which can be lent for the

Re: [Haifux] Virtual Box\Machine

2009-02-02 Thread Yossi Gil
but The transition (from Windows to Linux + Windows in a box) requires to reinstall windows under Linux. WhereHow can I update the wiki? Thanks, Tal. On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 12:57 AM, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.comwrote: 2009/1/29 Yossi Gil yossi@gmail.com: Tal, I missed that note

[Haifux] Linux + Hebrew?

2009-02-02 Thread Yossi Gil
Yes, I know that this mailing list is run in English, and yes I know, that Linux supports Hebrew. The topic I wish to raise is whether it is better that SSDL tries to make the Linux documentation in Hebrew. What do people here think? ___ Haifux mailing

Re: [Haifux] KDE?

2009-01-29 Thread Yossi Gil
KDE is of course not related to networking, but, as I said, networking worked with 4.0 but not in 4.2. I guess it is an issue of integration with the distribution.I was not motivated enough to try to solve the problem, and I removed 200MB or so of KDE. I will just wait for Kubuntu 9.04, and give

Re: [Haifux] KDE?

2009-01-29 Thread Yossi Gil
Dotan, The policy I would like to promote is that of diversity. OOo is great, but people should be able to choose between (at least) LaTeX, OOo, LyX, AbiWord, and KOffice. KOffice is more slick, but less compatible. I think that students should be exposed to a variety of tools. If I had to force

[Haifux] Wiki updates.

2009-01-29 Thread Yossi Gil
Thanks Dotan for agreeing to help with SSDL wiki. Shahar: Can you please open a Wiki account for Dotan? I did not mention this before, but I think we could easily open an account and grant SSDL access to interested HLC members. On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 6:57 PM, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com

Re: [Haifux] Party? Yes! Mark your calendars... Say YES if you will come.

2009-01-29 Thread Yossi Gil
So we have I think the critical mass for our get together, with Dotan, Adir, Amichai, Sorana, Melissa, and maybe even Eran and Zvi (I must have forgotten a few names...) Thanks guys. ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org

Re: [Haifux] The April Event.

2009-01-29 Thread Yossi Gil
I would like to make a paid order of disks. No point in doing that before 9.04 is out. On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/1/28 Yossi Gil yossi@gmail.com: 1. As per Dotan's advice, I just filled in a request for 50 Ubuntu disks, to be handed

Re: [Haifux] Using apt to make a student ubuntu distribution

2009-01-29 Thread Yossi Gil
Does anyone know whether you can make live CDs on a rewriteable CDs (DVDs), so that they can be used as your portable computer? This sounds cheaper than DOK. On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 11:56 PM, boazg boaz.ge...@gmail.com wrote: i think something like this http://uck.sourceforge.net/ is more

Re: [Haifux] Virtual Box\Machine

2009-01-29 Thread Yossi Gil
Tal, I missed that note of yours. As you can all tell, I am not a big expert on distributions and the myriad of products. (I used to have a good understanding of the basic concepts, old kernel structure and the such, but not much more.) Anyway, I checked a bit about andLinux and about coLinux.

Re: [Haifux] Virtual Box\Machine

2009-01-28 Thread Yossi Gil
Hi. The Pizza/Softdrinks party will not run formal installation, but there is no decree against installation during that time. The lab has Ubuntu 8.04 distribution CD. If people could bring their other installation disks, perhaps we can help you out. I On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Eran Arbel

[Haifux] KDE?

2009-01-28 Thread Yossi Gil
Ok, I downloaded and installed KDE 4.2 on 8.10. I was impressed with the bells and whistles, but was not converted. For one KOffice did not work (I guess it is a distribution issue, but did not want to spend time on this. Second, the wireless did not work, so I had no connectivity (it was working

Re: [Haifux] Haifux Digest, Vol 17, Issue 15

2009-01-27 Thread Yossi Gil
Eran, I am glad to hear that you find Linux useful and productive. I have an idea of running a Linux party in the lab, in one of these Wednesday Noon no teaching time at the Technion. This party will include help in installation for people who did not install, and free discussion of installation

Re: [Haifux] LINUX and SSDL

2009-01-27 Thread Yossi Gil
wrote: On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 9:04 PM, Tzafrir Cohen tzaf...@cohens.org.ilwrote: On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 08:59:45PM +0200, Haggai Eran wrote: On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Yossi Gil yossi@gmail.com wrote: 2. Running FF3 is not possible if a user is logged on to multiple stations

Re: [Haifux] LINUX and SSDL

2009-01-27 Thread Yossi Gil
Ohad, Thanks for the tip. I updated the wiki so as to help the students. http://ssdl-linux.cs.technion.ac.il/wiki/index.php/Beginning_SSDL_users#What_if_Firefox_becomes_very_slow tell me what you think. ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org

Re: [Haifux] Haifux Digest, Vol 17, Issue 15

2009-01-27 Thread Yossi Gil
Hi Shlomi, Thanks for the tip. I usually use flip, but added a section to our Wiki to reflect you suggestions, see: http://ssdl-linux.cs.technion.ac.il/wiki/index.php/Beginning_SSDL_users#File_Conversion Problems of Windows\Linux compatibility with code files I solved with Notepad++. I

Re: [Haifux] Haifux Digest, Vol 17, Issue 15

2009-01-27 Thread Yossi Gil
Sorana, I am not sure what you mean by VirtualBox. So many messages are going on in this list, so I may have missed something. If this is what I thought it was, then I would like to make one thing clear: I will not allow Windows to be run on the machines we have in the lab. This is not so much

Re: [Haifux] Virtual Box\Machine

2009-01-27 Thread Yossi Gil
know there isn't a install party. If there are a couple of other students that are interested on virtualbox on their pcs/laptops, I can come to ssdl lab and help with that. As you understand, Yossi Gil is against virtual machines on the lab and I agree with him

[Haifux] Linux Party

2009-01-27 Thread Yossi Gil
at the campus, asking me when the next Linux party will be. I usually tell them that we simply have no volunteers, but this time it's different: SSDL and Prof. Yossi Gil will be glad to host the next Instaparty here in the Technion. The day will combine lectures for beginners, as well as Linux

Re: [Haifux] Student complaints.

2009-01-27 Thread Yossi Gil
resolved after changing the JRE version, maybe you should check this way... -Amir. 2009/1/26 Yossi Gil yossi@gmail.com Folks, here is the list of the unedited gripe list of students. As you will see, some of the problems are educational (MS WORD is sexy), other are organizational

Re: [Haifux] Haifux Digest, Vol 17, Issue 15

2009-01-27 Thread Yossi Gil
Sorana, How about it if you helped students installing virtual boxes in their laptops? I would appreciate in help doing this on my own laptop computer. Yossi ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org

Re: [Haifux] Linux Party

2009-01-27 Thread Yossi Gil
Hi. I love your idea of Live DOK. In fact, I was going to suggest something similar, but this is perhaps not as good. My idea was that the students will be able to burn an Ubuntu CD right from the lab's computers. The disk on key could be even better I guess, but would not that ruin the student's

[Haifux] Party????

2009-01-27 Thread Yossi Gil
As for the other issues, I can only ask one question: Do you have one Linux geek in the lab's support team? To me it seems like these problems require a few hours each to solve, which is peanuts in terms of employment, but too much to ask someone to volunteer for... The situation is as

Re: [Haifux] The use of SSDL...

2009-01-27 Thread Yossi Gil
Hi Tzafrir, I am not sure which ML and which Prolog are used. Also, I do not know which tools are used in verification. I believe Rational Rose / Rhapsody are used for some of the courses. Yossi ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org

[Haifux] LINUX and SSDL

2009-01-26 Thread Yossi Gil
Dear All, I hear that there is an active Linux community that you run. I would like to see if we can cooperate in one of the following issues regarding the installation of Linux Ubuntu in SSDL. In particular, I would like to check if we - can help you guys in organixing Linux lectures? - ditto,

Re: [Haifux] LINUX and SSDL

2009-01-26 Thread Yossi Gil
Hi Eli and Yotam: Just to answer your questions: SSDL is a laboratory for software engineering students at the Technion. We have 20 workstations (equipped fairly impressively, lots of RAM, dual screens, HZs, etc.) We migrated to Ubuntu 8.04 at the beginning of the school year. Up until then, we

[Haifux] Student complaints.

2009-01-26 Thread Yossi Gil
Folks, here is the list of the unedited gripe list of students. As you will see, some of the problems are educational (MS WORD is sexy), other are organizational (not enough quota), while others are technical (Eclipse crashes). I am asking for your help mainly in dealing with the psychological