Re: [Hampshire] Ubuntu (& Other) users beware

2009-11-12 Thread Victor Churchill
I feel slightly grubby in present company to admit that I have been submitted as a co-inventor on a couple of patents arising from work I did in two different places ... both were, I suppose, 'systems' rather than specific bits of software. I'm not sure quite where the boundary is there. -- Pleas

Re: [Hampshire] Ubuntu (& Other) users beware

2009-11-12 Thread Stephen Davies
Sorry, I meant to say POLICYKIT rather than PackageKit. Stephen D -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --

Re: [Hampshire] Ubuntu (& Other) users beware

2009-11-12 Thread Stephen Davies
Thanks Victor. The mists of time confused me somewhat but I was nearly there. >From several other soutced it appears that Packagekit is also in the firing line with this patent. I really do hope that SCOTUS see the light and chuck this along with every other software paten into the great bit

Re: [Hampshire] Ubuntu (& Other) users beware

2009-11-12 Thread Victor Churchill
2009/11/12 Victor Churchill : Found it. It goes "I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid *I* can't do that." At least, that's what it says in that particular clip. There were other bits of dialogue too... -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listi

Re: [Hampshire] Ubuntu (& Other) users beware

2009-11-12 Thread Victor Churchill
2009/11/12 Victor Churchill : Actually the clip does not help answer the question. It says "what d' you think you're doing, Dave?" which is neither here nor there. I'm sure IMDB or something will have the answer. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.o

Re: [Hampshire] Ubuntu (& Other) users beware

2009-11-12 Thread Victor Churchill
2009/11/12 Victor Churchill : > > I have it on this laptop as an MP3 on the old Win partition as an > error message sound file, but haven't been there for a long time. I'll > see if I can find it... > Intersting. I found it on the WinXP partition and copied it across: vic...@pan:~/Desktop$ file dav

Re: [Hampshire] Ubuntu (& Other) users beware

2009-11-12 Thread Victor Churchill
2009/11/12 Stephen Davies : > Stuart > >  Did HAL say this in 2001? > > "I'm sorry Dave, you can't do that" I believe it was "I'm sorry, Dave; I can't let you do that" I have it on this laptop as an MP3 on the old Win partition as an error message sound file, but haven't been there for a long tim

Re: [Hampshire] Ubuntu (& Other) users beware

2009-11-12 Thread Stephen Davies
Stuart Did HAL say this in 2001? "I'm sorry Dave, you can't do that" I totally agree that whichever thing that are trying to get ownership of it is a pretty silly patent and yes there is lots of prior art. Sadly only those with mega deep pockets would even attempt to try to prove them otherw

Re: [Hampshire] Weird output from 'top'

2009-11-12 Thread Simon Reap
Chris. Aubrey-Smith wrote: > Yes, it is dual-core. I know about top <1> for per-core stats, but I > thought I read somewhere that the '%CPU' per-process column was an > amalgamation of the two - can't find the reference now, of course! The percentages in the section at the machine summary at the

Re: [Hampshire] Ubuntu (& Other) users beware

2009-11-12 Thread Stuart Sears
On 11/11/09 16:51, Stephen Davies wrote: > Microsoft has patented 'sudo' No, they haven't. From my reading (and indeed one of the comments on the thread) they've patented a GUI for 'su', rather than sudo, with a scary (from a security perspective) idea that they may just give you a list of use

Re: [Hampshire] Ubuntu (& Other) users beware

2009-11-12 Thread Paul Stimpson
Hmmm... If I understood the article correctly MS are now so proud of their security flaws that they have started patenting them. It seemed to me that the novel thing about msudo is that it displays a list of users who have the rights to perform whatever action the current user can't. (Somenas

Re: [Hampshire] Weird output from 'top'

2009-11-12 Thread Chris. Aubrey-Smith
2009/11/12 Alan Pope > 2009/11/12 Hugo Mills : > > If it's a dual-core machine, then you have 200% of a CPU available > > to work with, and FF is taking 135% of a CPU total (i.e. it could be > > maxing out one core, and using 35% of the time available on the > > other). > > > > If it's a sing

Re: [Hampshire] Weird output from 'top'

2009-11-12 Thread Alan Pope
2009/11/12 Hugo Mills : >   If it's a dual-core machine, then you have 200% of a CPU available > to work with, and FF is taking 135% of a CPU total (i.e. it could be > maxing out one core, and using 35% of the time available on the > other). > >   If it's a single-core machine, you've got problems.

Re: [Hampshire] Weird output from 'top'

2009-11-12 Thread Hugo Mills
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 05:00:50PM +, Chris. Aubrey-Smith wrote: > While running Iceweasel, my machine (3.00Ghz, 1.0 Mb IBM S50, Debian Lenny) > suddenly became very sluggish. I ran top and found that firefox.bin was > reported as consuming 135% of processor capacity! I killed the process and >

[Hampshire] Weird output from 'top'

2009-11-12 Thread Chris. Aubrey-Smith
Hi, all! While running Iceweasel, my machine (3.00Ghz, 1.0 Mb IBM S50, Debian Lenny) suddenly became very sluggish. I ran top and found that firefox.bin was reported as consuming 135% of processor capacity! I killed the process and everything returned to normal. Now, I'm used to certain public fi

Re: [Hampshire] Ubuntu (& Other) users beware

2009-11-12 Thread Stephen Davies
Taking the route of defending yourself when sued takes a huge bucketload of money especially when it is a company the size of Microsoft on the other end. IMHO, until there is some form of escalating financial penalty for using patents like this, the whole 'mobius strip' of lining the already de

Re: [Hampshire] Ubuntu (& Other) users beware

2009-11-12 Thread Hugo Mills
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 10:00:58AM +, Ian Park wrote: > I've been involved in technical advice in patent litigation for a while, > and the tactic which is usually employed to deal with silly patents like > that is to wait until the patent holder sues for infringement and then > to present obvio

Re: [Hampshire] Ubuntu (& Other) users beware

2009-11-12 Thread Ian Park
I've been involved in technical advice in patent litigation for a while, and the tactic which is usually employed to deal with silly patents like that is to wait until the patent holder sues for infringement and then to present obvious prior art as the defence, to have the patent declared invalid.

[Hampshire] White house web site foss

2009-11-12 Thread alan c
Sounds like good news to me White House goes Open Source http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2009/10/27/white_house_goes_open_source.html -- alan cocks Ubuntu user -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://w