Re: [Hampshire] Something to Download and Enjoy

2010-11-11 Thread Sean Gibbins
On 11/11/10 02:04, Vic wrote: It is offensive and wrong to use the term in a FLOSS community. Absolutely not. It is the correct term, since it describes the OS created by joining the GNU userland to the Linux kernel. And hardly offensive at that, unless you are especially sensitive about

Re: [Hampshire] Something to Download and Enjoy

2010-11-11 Thread alan c
On 10/11/10 23:44, John Cooper wrote: http://www.groklaw.net/images/awardvideofinalwithcopyright.mov She talks about free and open source software, inferring Linux, GNU et al. I don't think you stating GNU/Linux, inferring GNU has some hierarchy above Linux, is appropriate. The 'freedom'

Re: [Hampshire] Something to Download and Enjoy

2010-11-11 Thread Stephen Davies
Ouch, I'm truly sorry for opening such a hornets nest by using what I thought was the correct term GNU/Linux. Ok, I've given myself a slap on the wrist and spent half an hour on the naughty step. Come on guys/gals, lighten up please. The work that PJ and the hundreds if not thousands of

Re: [Hampshire] Something to Download and Enjoy

2010-11-11 Thread Daniel Llewellyn
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 17:28, Stephen Davies stephen.dav...@ultraconsulting.co.uk wrote: Ouch,  I'm truly sorry for opening such a hornets nest by using what I thought was the correct term GNU/Linux. Ok, I've given myself a slap on the wrist and spent half an hour on the naughty step.

Re: [Hampshire] Something to Download and Enjoy

2010-11-11 Thread alan c
On 11/11/10 17:38, Daniel Llewellyn wrote: Yeah, I worship at the altar of Saint Stallman. I liked the bit where he said one advantage was the disciples do not need to be celibate. :-) -- alan cocks Ubuntu user -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface:

Re: [Hampshire] Something to Download and Enjoy

2010-11-11 Thread Jan Henkins
On Thu, November 11, 2010 17:38, Daniel Llewellyn wrote: [snip] partially libre Android-based HTC Magic phone. I now need to find a completely libre phone akin to the openmoko but with 3g capability (I've not checked openmoko's progress recently so they may already have the option). Don't

Re: [Hampshire] Something to Download and Enjoy

2010-11-11 Thread Jan Henkins
On Thu, November 11, 2010 17:54, alan c wrote: I liked the bit where he said one advantage was the disciples do not need to be celibate. :-) Made my day, thanks Alan! :-) -- Regards, Jan Henkins -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface:

[Hampshire] Something to Download and Enjoy

2010-11-10 Thread Stephen Davies
to all HantsLug, Many of you may well have heard of Groklaw. (http://www.groklaw.net) At least two of HantsLug members are regular contibutors. I'm one and 'Vic' is another. If you are a contributor like us then you will probably know of the award that PJ and Groklaw has just received from

Re: [Hampshire] Something to Download and Enjoy

2010-11-10 Thread alan c
On 10/11/10 18:58, Stephen Davies wrote: to all HantsLug, Many of you may well have heard of Groklaw. (http://www.groklaw.net) At least two of HantsLug members are regular contibutors. I'm one and 'Vic' is another. If you are a contributor like us then you will probably know of the award

Re: [Hampshire] Something to Download and Enjoy

2010-11-10 Thread John Cooper
On 10/11/10 18:58, Stephen Davies wrote: to all HantsLug, Many of you may well have heard of Groklaw. (http://www.groklaw.net) At least two of HantsLug members are regular contibutors. I'm one and 'Vic' is another. If you are a contributor like us then you will probably know of the award that

Re: [Hampshire] Something to Download and Enjoy

2010-11-10 Thread Vic
GNU/Linux is offensive to me It shouldn't be. Linux is a kernel. To make a useful OS, you kinda need some userspace programs. That userspace is what converts Linux into GNU/Linux. If you sat it atop Hurd, it would be GNU/Hurd. Vic. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web

Re: [Hampshire] Something to Download and Enjoy

2010-11-10 Thread Daniel Llewellyn
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 00:23, Vic l...@beer.org.uk wrote: GNU/Linux is offensive to me It shouldn't be. Linux is a kernel. To make a useful OS, you kinda need some userspace programs. That userspace is what converts Linux into GNU/Linux. If you sat it atop Hurd, it would be GNU/Hurd. I

Re: [Hampshire] Something to Download and Enjoy

2010-11-10 Thread John Cooper
On 11/11/10 00:23, Vic wrote: GNU/Linux is offensive to me It shouldn't be. Linux is a kernel. To make a useful OS, you kinda need some userspace programs. That userspace is what converts Linux into GNU/Linux. If you sat it atop Hurd, it would be GNU/Hurd. Vic. And Apache converts

Re: [Hampshire] Something to Download and Enjoy

2010-11-10 Thread Vic
And Apache converts Linux, GNU et al to a Web server. You're mixing apples and oranges there... The OS is defined according to the POSIX spec. To create that OS, you need both the kernel (Linux) and the userland (GNU, typically). Apache et al are applications that run on top of the OS. They