Re: [Hardhats-members] “Health Information Technology Leadership Panel: Final ,Report” is available

2005-05-12 Thread Wolfgang Giere
Congratulation to the justified statement on VistA and federal HIT successes in VA, DoD and IHS on page 11 of the Final Report. What a success, what a change since the days of the underground railroad! Wolfgang Giere Joseph Dal Molin wrote: A copy of the “Health Information Technology Leadershi

Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: Slow CPRS performance over VPN

2005-05-12 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
Do you run the VPN over TCP or UDP? I know that TCP based RPC protocols (like the one used by the Broker) are still problematic over a WAN, but this would at least take window size at the VPN level out of the equation. You can also monitor window size using a tool like tcpdump. Gregory Wo

Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: Slow CPRS performance over VPN

2005-05-12 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
Perhaps more to the point, how best to run an application like CPRS in a WAN environment is an interesting problem. Unfortunately, you can't have everything for free, and a simple request/reply paradigm may not be the best way to go over a WAN. There are other alternatives, though. Keep in mind

Re: [Hardhats-members] "Health Information Technology Leadership Panel: Final ,Report" is available

2005-05-12 Thread Joseph Dal Molin
Thanks for picking this up WolfgangI haven't had time to read the report yet. What I think is absolutely brilliant about the US's "leadership by example" strategy for EHR adoption is using the VA and the CMS initiatives to stimulate competition and set some "reference targets" for the rest

Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: Slow CPRS performance over VPN

2005-05-12 Thread K.S. Bhaskar
Kevin -- This post is in the spirit of Greg's suggestion to brainstorm alternative approaches. One alternative is just to ask a local telecom company to provide an end-to-end VPN. I know that you can get decent (or at least acceptable) performance this way. For example, the GT.M development s

RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: Slow CPRS performance over VPN

2005-05-12 Thread Cameron Schlehuber
I think that Donald nailed the issue. CPRS indeed keeps its messages short, but there may be quite a few of them. It works rather well over a 28K modem (without a VPN or router in the way), but will indeed be slow with a VPN over a WAN that has other traffic to compete with ... even though the ov

[Hardhats-members] RE: Slow CPRS performance over VPN

2005-05-12 Thread Cable One
Bhaskar's suggestion will solve the problem nicely. Moves all of the time critical traffic to the lan and uses the wan for replication of the data to another site. It does involve the costs associated with another server, but that is really low these days. Using UDP for a VPN does not really solv

Re: [Hardhats-members] RE: Slow CPRS performance over VPN

2005-05-12 Thread smcphelan
Bhaskar's suggestion would be a nice solution if that is what BCMA does. The BCMA backup program does not relay all relevant information for the EHR for that patient. It only backups up that data that is relevant for the function of giving medication to inpatients only, not all patients. So it ha

RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: Slow CPRS performance over VPN

2005-05-12 Thread Thurman Pedigo
These are interesting observations. Even more interesting is a story slowly rising to the top of the news, having been upstaged by run-away-bride, that the U.S. over the past four years has slipped from the leader in bandwidth to #15 in the world market. Some authorities now describe us as driving

Re: [Hardhats-members] RE: Slow CPRS performance over VPN

2005-05-12 Thread Greg Woodhouse
Well, not the basic TCP stack but the VPN. My thought was that there could be window size issue afflicting the connection upon which the VPN is layered, not the "normal" traffic running over the VPN. I know people talk about doing things like disabling Nagle to optimize web servers, but I agree th

RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: Slow CPRS performance over VPN

2005-05-12 Thread Greg Woodhouse
Can you elaborate? Are you talking about backbone capabilities or end-user services like DSL? --- Thurman Pedigo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > These are interesting observations. Even more interesting is a story > slowly > rising to the top of the news, having been upstaged by > run-away-bride, th

Re: [Hardhats-members] RE: Slow CPRS performance over VPN

2005-05-12 Thread Joseph Dal Molin
Perhaps the glass is half fulllcouldn't BCMA functionality be extended to address the rest of the data and patient popn'?? smcphelan wrote: Bhaskar's suggestion would be a nice solution if that is what BCMA does. The BCMA backup program does not relay all relevant information for the EHR for

Re: [Hardhats-members] RE: Slow CPRS performance over VPN

2005-05-12 Thread Greg Woodhouse
I have been advocating a "write through" approach to data replication. It works well when data is only read but not updated. Distributed updates are harder, probably requiring a 2- or 3-phase commit, even with just two systems. Of course, an interesting question is: Where does this kind of functio

[Hardhats-members] Grant for WorldVistA?

2005-05-12 Thread chuck5566
http://www.affs.org.uk/grants/ It's the Association for Free Software. They're taking applications for grants. It looks like it would $1000 max and they claim to "prefer projects that have a UK focus or would benefit UK Free Software users/developers", but I'm always of a mind that it can't hurt

Re: [Hardhats-members] Grant for WorldVistA?

2005-05-12 Thread Greg Woodhouse
Does anyone in the UK use VistA? --- chuck5566 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.affs.org.uk/grants/ > > It's the Association for Free Software. They're taking applications > for grants. It looks like it would $1000 max and they claim to > "prefer > projects that have a UK focus or woul

Re: [Hardhats-members] RE: Slow CPRS performance over VPN

2005-05-12 Thread smcphelan
The VA is planning such a mechanism, it is called the HDR. If you moved all the patient's data to another system the amount of data to move could be tremendous using up what bandwidth you have remaining. Then the "backup" system will not be an inexpensive solution either. It will have to have th

[Hardhats-members] On Entrepreneurial Seizures in Health Care

2005-05-12 Thread Ignacio Valdes
On Entrepreneurial Seizures in Health Care '...So many in the past have had a health IT entrepreneurial seizure. A health IT entrepreneurial seizure can summed up with the following phrase: 'We'll get a bunch of money and some great programmers, go to work, and after a few years, show these dumb

RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: Slow CPRS performance over VPN

2005-05-12 Thread Thurman Pedigo
My recall (heard it on NPR) is it was likened to the interstate system. President Eisenhour created the interstate system to support a massive transport system to move goods around the country. The guy I heard interviewed has a book due out in a few months. My sense is we are not doing as well as w

Re: [Hardhats-members] Languishing Wikki . . . What's up?

2005-05-12 Thread Ismet Kursunoglu, MD
We just this week completed the build out/physical plant for the Alaska Clinic -i.e. now we can actually sit inside and see the magnificent view of the Alaska range. And just yesterday did we got a static IP address into the switch room. (BTW, we have 96 Ethernet ports to support the 2200 sq ft

Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: Slow CPRS performance over VPN

2005-05-12 Thread Nancy Anthracite
I just got an ad in the mail for a fiberoptic connection with 2Mbs up and 5 Mbs down for the same price as my 386/1.5 DLS line. I will check into the fine print soon, but it sounds pretty good. I would love to have more upload speed for people picking up big files over 100+ megabytes. Having

Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Community Conference Call

2005-05-12 Thread Maury Pepper
VistA Community Call Friday at NOON EDT. TOPICS: - What's coming in OpenVistA 4.0 - Open discussion on any relevant topic DATE: Friday, May 13 TIME: 12:00 Noon EDT DURATION: 1 hour. CONFERENCE CALL DIAL IN NUMBERS USA 866-483-4159 Outside USA 706-634-0093 SPECIAL INSTRUCTIONS Dia

[Hardhats-members] Revised (again) /usr/local/OpenVistA/vista script

2005-05-12 Thread JohnLeo Zimmer
ce based on package defaults # 20050305 0.31 K.S. BhaskarDefault base install directory to $PWD # 20050512 0.31z J.L. Zimmer Converted from Xdialog to dialog with addition of Rundown and cosmetic tweaks # See Xdialog documentation for Compatability Mode