RE: [Hardhats-members] Maintaining database integrity

2005-04-07 Thread Bhaskar, KS
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of steven mcphelan Sent: Tue 4/5/2005 3:57 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Cc: Subject:Re: [Hardhats-members] Maintaining database integrity [KSB] <...snip...> Is GT.M fully compliant with the

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2005-04-06 Thread steven mcphelan
-Original Message- From: K.S. Bhaskar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 7:06 PM To: Steve McPhelan Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Maintaining database integrity Steve -- I cannot reply to the hardhats list from my Blackberry (from which I am replying to your

Re: [Hardhats-members] Maintaining database integrity

2005-04-05 Thread steven mcphelan
ED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 12:29 PM Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Maintaining database integrity > I know that I need to understand this entire process, > which I currently don't. But I learn best by finding > answers for specific questions. > > So in this sit

Re: [Hardhats-members] Maintaining database integrity

2005-04-05 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
r not once the > > > disk filled up. The only way I knew this > happened > > > was that the system > > > eventually crashed when disk had gotten so > corrupted > > > with these random > > > writes to any block. > > > > > > Do you r

Re: [Hardhats-members] Maintaining database integrity

2005-04-05 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
> trapping a particular type of error? Suppose that > the parent does not want the child trapping (and > perhaps ignoring or mishandling) a error? > M does not provide that and I don't know if any of > the languages you sited does either. > > > - Original Messag

Re: [Hardhats-members] Maintaining database integrity

2005-04-05 Thread Greg Woodhouse
ght about namespacing errors and restricting applications to trapping errors in their namespace, but I don't think the standard allows this. > > - Original Message - > From: "Kevin Toppenberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 9:

Re: [Hardhats-members] Maintaining database integrity

2005-04-05 Thread Greg Woodhouse
ir own user defined error trap? I > > think not. I can see > > one exception to this, possibly. You set the error > > trap and look for a > > specific error message. All other messages are > > treated as fatal and sent to > > the Kernel. Prior to the %ZISH utilitie

Re: [Hardhats-members] Maintaining database integrity

2005-04-05 Thread Maury Pepper
f any of the languages you sited does either. - Original Message - From: "Kevin Toppenberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 9:31 AM Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Maintaining database integrity > In the languages that I am familiar with, such

Re: [Hardhats-members] Maintaining database integrity

2005-04-05 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
e at the end of > a file was to examine > $ZE["ENDOFILE". This example is not valid now since > we have the %ZISH > utilities. > > - Original Message - > From: "Greg Woodhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Monday, April 04, 200

Re: [Hardhats-members] Maintaining database integrity

2005-04-04 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
om: "Greg Woodhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Maintaining database integrity --- steven mcphelan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There is no way in Hades I would support this unless it was done properly. Are you

Re: [Hardhats-members] Maintaining database integrity

2005-04-04 Thread steven mcphelan
nly way to tell you were at the end of a file was to examine $ZE["ENDOFILE". This example is not valid now since we have the %ZISH utilities. - Original Message - From: "Greg Woodhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [Ha

Re: [Hardhats-members] Maintaining database integrity

2005-04-04 Thread Greg Woodhouse
You can do dumb things with try blocks in Java, too, but just as you generally have several catch clauses for different classes of excceptions, the only reasonable thing to do is check the value of $ECODE and act accordingly. At some point, I think you have to be willing to put the burden on the p

Re: [Hardhats-members] Maintaining database integrity

2005-04-04 Thread Greg Woodhouse
--- steven mcphelan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There is no way in Hades I would support this unless it was done > properly. Are you suggesting that I'm saying it should be done improperly? Two techniques that I believe could be used to advantage are sertting $ECODE for user defined errors (of

Re: [Hardhats-members] Maintaining database integrity

2005-04-04 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
is treat all > errors as fatal, log them > to the error trap, and disconnect that user? > > If every VA VistA programmer was a George Timson or > a Michael Distaso then I > would have such reservations. > > > - Original Message - > From: "Gregory Woodhouse&quo

Re: [Hardhats-members] Maintaining database integrity

2005-04-04 Thread steven mcphelan
Distaso then I would have such reservations. - Original Message - From: "Gregory Woodhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 12:54 AM Subject: [Hardhats-members] Maintaining database integrity > I've noticed there's been a lot of discus

RE: [Hardhats-members] Maintaining database integrity

2005-04-04 Thread Bhaskar, KS
4/2005 12:54 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Cc: Subject: [Hardhats-members] Maintaining database integrity I've noticed there's been a lot of discussion of dangling pointers and other types of database integrity issues at the application level. My exper

[Hardhats-members] Maintaining database integrity

2005-04-03 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
I've noticed there's been a lot of discussion of dangling pointers and other types of database integrity issues at the application level. My experience has been that these sorts of problems are much more common than problems at the global level (i.e., in the MUMPS subsystem). Part of the proble