Thane Sherrington (S) wrote:
At 09:30 AM 05/06/2006, Chris Reeves wrote:
Rendering 2d for your video card, as someone pointed out is child's
play.
Having it continuously in a 3D enabled mode means it's using more power;
more heat; more chances for a nice graphics crash. Not sure what great
b
My $600 Compaq Presario V2404US laptop runs Vista just fine,
including the Aero glass effect. Initially it had only 512 MB RAM
but I increased that recently to 1.5 GB, which did result in
speedier operation. Of that RAM, 128 MB is being used by the
integrated graphics processor, so initially the O
That seems reasonable to me. If you're running old hardware, use XP. If
you want to run what's typical for sale today and a reasonable price
point, get Vista.
Gosh, I've been running 2 GB of Ram for almost 2 years now. I bet most
of you have too.
Chris Reeves wrote:
Here's the way it went
You guys kinda surprise me. Many of you have top-notch systems and
components, yet you want an OS that supports mostly minimal hardware.
Why? Vista represents an OS designed to run on and fully utilize the
type of hardware that we see sold today. Big memory vidcards and lots
of system ram ar
Use OLD OSs for old hardware. Vista is a new OS for newer
hardware.and increasingly so, newer machines come with stuff that
Vista can run on...so it's not really about requiring new hardware, but
using the hardware that's already there and/or available...
Eli Allen wrote:
So you think the
Microsoft won a long time ago. Period! :)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Case closed and Microsoft wins again, $270.00 for one computer because
the customer made the wrong choice in the beginning.
Chuck
Greg Sevart wrote:
Areoglass's requirements are also a joke. I'm sorry, but I shouldn't
need to have a dedicated graphics controller with 128mb of RAM just to
get transparencies, the weird ALT-TAB replacement, etc. I'm running on a
6 month old Dell Inspiron 700m laptop with an Intel 850 graphic
Most people can get by fine with just home basic anyway
Richard Kim wrote:
Not that bad or confusing? I'm sure M$ is not going to give refunds or
exchanges of you buy one edition and end up needed another one. "Just buy
the most expensive, most feature laden one".
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Thanks, btw, have you done any video editing with this processor yet?
Apps you use?
How does the processor do?
The reason I ask, I have a 3.0 Ghz AMD 64 bit processor and it really chugs
when using most Video editing software. Otherwise I have been happy with it.
But I would upgrade if video edi
Except that OSX will run with full effects on any Apple with at least a
G3 processor and onboard USB. That's pretty much any Mac made within the
last 5-8 years. And if you count the Macs that you can buy a G3 upgrade
for, that probably pushes it out to 10 years.
Yeah, it may be slow, but at le
No I don't expect that but when I upgraded from NT 3.5 to NT 4.0 they gave
users a discount. When we went from 2000 to 2003 those with 2000 got a price
break back
Going basically from SBS SP1 to SBS SPe and being forced to pay $700 for
something even they even they admit is basically two new it
Things will never seem fair when one product is replaced by another forcing
the user to pay again if they want the new stuff. But how is MS any worse
then other companies? Want them to be like Apple and be very secretive
about what is coming out and when? So a user may buy something without a
Aero isn't for current generation laptops, but Aero is just a part of Vista.
Plus looking to the future is good, I'd rather have a major new UI API done
once that everytime new HW comes out that enables one extra little function.
Makes writing code easier
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At 09:
I would DEFINITELY agree with this. I just have a lowly 1.5ghz g4
AlBook, and I went from 512 to 1.5gb months ago. Difference is
astonishing in terms of speed, responsiveness, everything..
Scott
On Jun 4, 2006, at 6:19 AM, Zulfiqar Naushad wrote:
Damn,
I just bit the bullet and got myself
Wouldn't know as I refuse to jump on that bandwagon. Better just by not
being iTunes IMHO.
As Brian said you can force ID3 tag data for the 3 major tags (genre,
album, artist) & track number with the feedname, album, artist, genre,
date, & time or any text you fill in. Also it handles getting
On NTFS drives you have NO security tab and thus no way to set security
per folder or file. It's synonymous to "simple file sharing" on the
local side in the sense that either you have admin rights or user rights
to folder but no tweaking.
Bottom line is they dumbed it down and not just the i
> One of the other problems vista will face is market confusion. There will
> be EIGHTEEN different versions of Vista
>
> Basically seven commonly available versions, double that so you have 32bit
> / 64 bit versions. Add in tablet edition, as well as other upgrade
> versions...
>
> Vista makes me
Here is a list of the various versions of Vista and some information about
them...
http://winsupersite.com/showcase/winvista_editions.asp
> One of the other problems vista will face is market confusion. There will
> be EIGHTEEN different versions of Vista
>
> Basically seven commonly available v
> At 17:13 6/4/2006, CW, wrote:
>>I've spent the weekend playing with Vista after hearing all the perks and
>>the like from those touting it at the Microsoft meeting here in KC on
>> Thursday.
>>
>>The fundamental problem with Vista is one that I don't think is addressed
>> by
>>Microsoft's continu
Meh, even 90% of todays "high end" laptops of today won't be able to run
Vista with full effects.
My laptop runs Vista without Aero just fine. But then again I have 2GB
of RAM in it. :)
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> So what can be worse than a sluggish low end desktop that has received
> and OS upg
Ability to force id3 tags on the file as it downloads is the big
reason. I use iTunes for everything BUT podcast downloads.
On 6/5/06, j m g <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Is it any better than itunes? Is it touting something that itunes doesn't
have? Other than memory footprint :)
On 6/1/06, w
If MS is to be believed from the QA after their tech stop they will offer no
'upgrade' versions at any price break
True of both Vista and anyone going from SBS2003 to SBS2003R2 will also pay
full boat all over again
Unless you purchased within 180 days at which point some sort of mail in rebate
Is it any better than itunes? Is it touting something that itunes doesn't have? Other than memory footprint :)On 6/1/06, warpmedia <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Someone back a bit asked about good podcast download software and if
they didn't mention it, let me.Doppler has solved by d/l woes and unli
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From: "Thane Sherrington (S)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "The Hardware List"
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 8:57 AM
Subject: RE: [H] I'm convinced, Vista is garbage.
And how many laptops have 128MB of video RAM or more? Not many. So Vista
isn't for laptops, clearl
At 09:30 AM 05/06/2006, Chris Reeves wrote:
Rendering 2d for your video card, as someone pointed out is child's play.
Having it continuously in a 3D enabled mode means it's using more power;
more heat; more chances for a nice graphics crash. Not sure what great
benefit there is in that.
And ho
I should also note, the requirement of DX9 is one part; but it's 128MB of
"dedicated" Video RAM, but if you are using UMA (say an Nvidia 6150
Motherboard, etc.) you will need 256MB mapped to onboard video by their
recommendation.
CW
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Take a look at media center. Aero is not about making windows look better
like a new theme in XP, its about allowing the applications themselves to do
more in the way they display their UI.
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From: "Chris Reeves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'The Hardware List'"
Sen
At 08:50 AM 05/06/2006, warpmedia wrote:
Personally I never recommend home simply because of the missing
security settings but would not feel bad if the customer is too lazy
or stupid to to take time to understand why before plunking down the
money for the cheaper home version. People want past
So far, outside of the winkey-tab "alt-tab" replacement, I haven't seen any
enormous advantage to a 3d environment. Transparent windows(?) Hell, I
could do that now with stardock if I wanted.
I somewhat get conceptually where they are trying to go. Part of the bigger
problem I think they face i
No, in fact, they specifically note that. If you have a 128MB card, and
it's only a DX8 card (let's say a Geforce TI4200) it will not run Aero. You
have to have the right amount of ram and hardware support for DX9.
CW
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Here's the way it went down at the MS Partner's meeting though -
(Microsoft/AMD TechTour) the basic statement: 512MB will -barely- run
Windows Vista and they noted the real minimum requirements should be:
A processor 2.5Ghz (or Equiv) and higher
1GB of RAM
256MB DX9 Video Card
So there you go. T
What does aero give you? Simple answer:
http://channel9.msdn.com/Showpost.aspx?postid=114694
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From: "warpmedia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "The Hardware List"
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 7:58 AM
Subject: Re: [H] I'm convinced, Vista is garbage.
RAM, yes 512MB is th
RAM, yes 512MB is the norm. Not that you should pay the ass-raping
prices vendors want to upgrade to 512MB, 1 stick, etc... but you should
have that even if you have to buy the system with lowest RAM & upgrade
3rd party.
Desktop? Screw that, name one good reason to use the 3d to render a 2d
d
I also agree that Vista is bad, more bloat, more requirements, more
confusion and not much extra functionality.although I am kind of forced
to upgrade to it as I dual-boot MCE2005 and XP64 (and its becoming an
annoyance), which Vista will roll into one product for me.
The 512MB memory requirem
Tough, if you are pre-installing correctly they had the option at 1st
boot to accept the EULA & decide if home was what they wanted.
Assuming they have not activated I dare say you could uninstall OEM Home
(taking back the COA & media) and do a fresh OEM Pro install without any
issues.
Perso
So you think the system requirements for software should never increase?
512 megs of ram isn't that uncommon these days.
As to Aero, whats wrong with requiring full DX 9 hardware with 128 megs of
ram? You don't need to run Aero to use Vista so they were right in
designing Aero for the future,
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From: "Chris Reeves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "The Hardware List"
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 7:51 PM
Subject: Re: [H] I'm convinced, Vista is garbage.
One of the other problems vista will face is market confusion. There will
be EIGHTEEN different versions of Vis
One very important thing to consider is that when
running Aero Glass, the VGA card is being "utilized".
That makes the power consumption go up. For desktops
that's fine, but for laptops
--- Greg Sevart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Areoglass's requirements are also a joke. I'm
> sorr
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