Re: [H] Offline Windows Updater

2008-02-20 Thread Mesdaq, Ali
Greg your the Man! Thanks for the reg key info and the "wuaclt /detectnow" info. I remember there was a command line way to force it to check but too lazy to look for it. So you answered my laziness for me. I think a combination of nLite customized xp install to include something's in the install

Re: [H] Offline Windows Updater

2008-02-20 Thread Greg Sevart
Some other useful notes: "net stop wuauserv" stops the Automatic Updates (AU) service so it will pick up the new config. Change to start, obviously, to restart it. "wuauclt /detectnow" forces AU to detect if updates are needed immediately. c:\windows\WindowsUpdate.log provides a verbose log file

Re: [H] Offline Windows Updater

2008-02-20 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 03:04 PM 20/02/2008, Greg Sevart wrote: Oh, absolutely. You also don't need a domain and group policy--you just use a .reg file to add the WSUS server info, then delete the key when you're fully patched. We use it internally to bring new machines up to date -before- joining the corporate domai

Re: [H] Offline Windows Updater

2008-02-20 Thread Greg Sevart
Oh, absolutely. You also don't need a domain and group policy--you just use a .reg file to add the WSUS server info, then delete the key when you're fully patched. We use it internally to bring new machines up to date -before- joining the corporate domain. Here's a sample wsus-enable.reg file: W

Re: [H] Offline Windows Updater

2008-02-20 Thread j maccraw
nLite has it's place when making custom install XP CD's. Autopatcher was quite good and is not dead but rather they've been forced to change tack by scripting the downloads (to come direct from M$ servers) needed to create the packages. Right now it looks like the downloader has some issues wit

Re: [H] Offline Windows Updater

2008-02-20 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 01:58 PM 20/02/2008, Mesdaq, Ali wrote: I would be very hesitant to trust some free tool. But if you could install with a xp sp2 install then connect to your own internal WSUS server for updates post install patching could go from 2hrs to 20min. Can I use an WSUS server in a repair shop? Ev

Re: [H] Offline Windows Updater

2008-02-20 Thread Mesdaq, Ali
I would 2nd not using 3rd party tools for this kind of stuff unless its a up to business par. I worked for a company who was the pioneer of windows patch management and trust me its a VERY hard thing to do right I would be very hesitant to trust some free tool. But if you could install with a xp sp

Re: [H] Offline Windows Updater

2008-02-20 Thread W. D.
At 07:06 2/20/2008, Brian Weeden, wrote: >Having going through the a&&pain of multiple reboots and patching for >a new windows install too many times myself, I wanted to pass along >this little gem that I don't think has been mentioned here before: > >http://www.heise-online.co.uk/security/Do-it-yo

Re: [H] Need AMD XP Sempron CPU

2008-02-20 Thread James Boswell
Oh absolutely, the chipset does play a huge role, but I fear we're going to start running into the limits of the signal traces over the board itself AND timing issues derived from having two drops on the bus. On 20 Feb 2008, at 13:33, Greg Sevart wrote: Oh, the chipset plays a huge role. Th

Re: [H] Offline Windows Updater

2008-02-20 Thread Ben Ruset
Yes, AFAIK you need to log the machine into a domain, have it accept a group policy that sets the update repo path, do the updates, and then disjoin it from the domain and pray that the GP doesn't stick around after that. Thane Sherrington wrote: At 09:48 AM 20/02/2008, Greg Sevart wrote: T

Re: [H] Offline Windows Updater

2008-02-20 Thread JRS
Looks nice, just rebuilt 2 PC's this weekend and even using XP with SP2, there were 102 or so updates needed and it takes forever. >>Having going through the a&&pain of multiple reboots and patching for >>a new windows install too many times myself, I wanted to pass along >>this little gem that

Re: [H] Offline Windows Updater

2008-02-20 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 09:48 AM 20/02/2008, Greg Sevart wrote: Thane, I'm actually kinda surprised you don't just run an internal WSUS server for in-house patching. I've always preferred it over third party tools. Sure, it still requires multiple reboots, but at least pulling updates is nearly instantaneous. After

Re: [H] Offline Windows Updater

2008-02-20 Thread Greg Sevart
Thane, I'm actually kinda surprised you don't just run an internal WSUS server for in-house patching. I've always preferred it over third party tools. Sure, it still requires multiple reboots, but at least pulling updates is nearly instantaneous. After a couple botched systems caused by Autopatche

Re: [H] Offline Windows Updater

2008-02-20 Thread Thane Sherrington
Hi Brian, Thanks for the tip, I'm definitely going to try this out. T At 09:06 AM 20/02/2008, Brian Weeden wrote: Having going through the a&&pain of multiple reboots and patching for a new windows install too many times myself, I wanted to pass along this little gem that I don't think

Re: [H] Need AMD XP Sempron CPU

2008-02-20 Thread Greg Sevart
Oh, the chipset plays a huge role. The communication you speak of is (largely) regulated the NB in question. An exaggerated (because it has other problems) example is the 680i chipset. Even P965's are generally capable of running higher FSBs with QC chips than it can. Alternately, you can look at t

[H] Offline Windows Updater

2008-02-20 Thread Brian Weeden
Having going through the a&&pain of multiple reboots and patching for a new windows install too many times myself, I wanted to pass along this little gem that I don't think has been mentioned here before: http://www.heise-online.co.uk/security/Do-it-yourself-Service-Pack--/features/80682 It's an

Re: [H] Need AMD XP Sempron CPU

2008-02-20 Thread James Boswell
The issue with the twin-die arrangement on the current intel quadcores is that it's not the northbridge that generates the FSB wall, it's the blend of both cores and the need for everything to communicate properly, I've had an E8400 on a 500Mhz FSB (P35 chipset) for a few weeks now and it's