Re: [H] Method?

2008-08-26 Thread DHSinclair
OK, thanks FORC5. Will continue with just FFv3. Duncan At 15:13 08/26/2008 -0700, you wrote: nothing wrong with ie7, can be tweaked. FF better of course. Running both here with no problems. removing it just reverts back to the previous version. At 02:52 PM 8/26/2008, DHSinclair Poked the stic

Re: [H] Method?

2008-08-26 Thread DHSinclair
Thank you Ben, That point did cross my mind. But IE7 is just so tough 4me to drive! OK. Will leave it in place; kill the desktop icon, leave it in the program stack (choice), and, launch FFv3. Thanks again, Duncan At 18:10 08/26/2008 -0400, you wrote: No, having IE installed on the machine will

Re: [H] Method?

2008-08-26 Thread FORC5
nothing wrong with ie7, can be tweaked. FF better of course. Running both here with no problems. removing it just reverts back to the previous version. At 02:52 PM 8/26/2008, DHSinclair Poked the stick with: >So I have my test machine running WinXP SP3. >It also has IE V7.0. >This is the irritan

Re: [H] Method?

2008-08-26 Thread Ben Ruset
No, having IE installed on the machine will not impede FF at all. I say leave it -- there's times that a site will only load in IE. It's nice to have the option if you need. DHSinclair wrote: So I have my test machine running WinXP SP3. It also has IE V7.0. This is the irritant. I just can no

Re: [H] Memory issues

2008-08-26 Thread Brian Weeden
Planning on trying that (and a few other combinations) tonight. It will not allow for dual channel (which means the RAM will run at 400 Mhz instead of 800Mhz) but otherwise should work. --- Brian On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 5:01 PM, DHSinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brian, > Can you do slot 1+

[H] Method?

2008-08-26 Thread DHSinclair
So I have my test machine running WinXP SP3. It also has IE V7.0. This is the irritant. I just can not use it. I do see that I can uninstall IE7 using the Add/Remove tool Question: Does IE7 really go away if I choose this? Is there anything else I need to kill/remove also? Plan to put

Re: [H] Memory issues

2008-08-26 Thread DHSinclair
Brian, Can you do slot 1+3 or slot 2+4? (and/or all the permutations!) I suspect this may defeat the "dual channel" business, but just a thought ATM. Only way I know to remove focus to the m/b. But, as you guys are light years ahead of me, I may just be barking in the breeze on this one..

Re: [H] Memory issues

2008-08-26 Thread Brian Weeden
Yep. Started with RAM in slots 1&2 for dual channel capability. Crashes. Kept just one in slot 3. Stable. Moved both to slots 3&4. Crashes. Kept just one in slot 4. Stable. On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 5:35 PM, Joe User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello Winterlight, > > Tuesday, August 26, 200

Re: [H] Memory issues

2008-08-26 Thread Joe User
Hello FORC5, Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 2:16:39 PM, you wrote: > sounds like a bad memory slot on the MB, only seen this a couple of > times and it was the motherboard both times. YMMV > fp Yeah, thats my idea 2 more pieces of RAM would be the way to find out. -- Regards, joeuser - Still looki

Re: [H] Memory issues

2008-08-26 Thread Joe User
Hello Winterlight, Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 2:11:50 PM, you wrote: > Do this one stick at a time. If they both work individually OK then > you have your answer it's not the ram it's the board or > something on the board that doesn't like dual channel access. He did. Either one work

Re: [H] Memory issues

2008-08-26 Thread FORC5
sounds like a bad memory slot on the MB, only seen this a couple of times and it was the motherboard both times. YMMV fp At 10:34 AM 8/26/2008, Brian Weeden Poked the stick with: >When I rebuilt my HTPC I used an AMD 780G motherboard (GIGABYTE >GA-MA78G-DS3H), Athlon X2 4850e, and 2x2GB Crucial B

Re: [H] Memory issues

2008-08-26 Thread Winterlight
Like I said, with just one stick of the Crucial in there it seems to work just fine (3.5 days of uptime since pulling one stick). Brian Do this one stick at a time. If they both work individually OK then you have your answer it's not the ram it's the board or something on the board

Re: [H] Memory issues

2008-08-26 Thread Brian Weeden
Right now I can't replace both sticks unless I can toss some older DDR in there - I don't have any extra DDR2 sticks on hand. Not sure if that's possible. If it is, I can do that tonight. Like I said, with just one stick of the Crucial in there it seems to work just fine (3.5 days of uptime sinc

Re: [H] Memory issues

2008-08-26 Thread Joe User
Hello Brian, Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 1:32:09 PM, you wrote: > I had that same assumption. I've never had a case where RAM went bad on me > in the 10+ years I've been building machines. But it seems to be the only > part swap that correlates with the crashes. I changed the motherboard and > t

Re: [H] Memory issues

2008-08-26 Thread Joe User
Hello Winterlight, Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 1:17:05 PM, you wrote: > That would be very surprising. I have never heard of a documented > proven case of Crucial RAM going bad. I'm not saying it can't happen, > but Crucial RAM would be the last thing I would suspect right under a > PCP&C PS...

Re: [H] Memory issues

2008-08-26 Thread Greg Sevart
> > >. I think I've pinned it > >down to the Crucial ram. > > > That would be very surprising. I have never heard of a documented > proven case of Crucial RAM going bad. I'm not saying it can't happen, > but Crucial RAM would be the last thing I would suspect right under a > PCP&C PS...and they

Re: [H] Memory issues

2008-08-26 Thread Brian Weeden
I had that same assumption. I've never had a case where RAM went bad on me in the 10+ years I've been building machines. But it seems to be the only part swap that correlates with the crashes. I changed the motherboard and the boot drive and the crashes continues, the only card in the machine is

Re: [H] Memory issues

2008-08-26 Thread Winterlight
. I think I've pinned it down to the Crucial ram. That would be very surprising. I have never heard of a documented proven case of Crucial RAM going bad. I'm not saying it can't happen, but Crucial RAM would be the last thing I would suspect right under a PCP&C PS...and they never break e

Re: [H] Memory issues

2008-08-26 Thread DHSinclair
Brian, How about try 00 and 02; and then 01 and 03. Like one yellow and one orange. Best, Duncan At 14:51 08/26/2008 -0400, you wrote: Tried it both ways - 2 DIMMS in orange slots and 2 DIMMS in yellow slots, same amount of instability either way. On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 3:49 PM, Joe User <[EMA

Re: [H] Memory issues

2008-08-26 Thread Brian Weeden
Tried it both ways - 2 DIMMS in orange slots and 2 DIMMS in yellow slots, same amount of instability either way. On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 3:49 PM, Joe User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello DHSinclair, > > Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 12:37:07 PM, you wrote: > > > Brian, > > This one is a toughy! I

Re: [H] Memory issues

2008-08-26 Thread Joe User
Hello DHSinclair, Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 12:37:07 PM, you wrote: > Brian, > This one is a toughy! I've yet to have trouble with Crucial RAM. Odd. > Have you tried all the RAM slots? And, in different combinations; well > what the book suggests? Like one in the yellow bank and one in the > or

Re: [H] Memory issues

2008-08-26 Thread Joe User
Hello Brian, Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 11:34:57 AM, you wrote: > My question is, could this be something else causing the problems? Should I > return both for replacement to Crucial? Just one? Will they even accept it > when there doesn't appear to be any defects with the RAM? Or should I ju

Re: [H] Memory issues

2008-08-26 Thread DHSinclair
Brian, This one is a toughy! I've yet to have trouble with Crucial RAM. Odd. Have you tried all the RAM slots? And, in different combinations; well what the book suggests? Like one in the yellow bank and one in the orange bank? Perhaps one of the slots you use has busted connections. Certainly

[H] Memory issues

2008-08-26 Thread Brian Weeden
When I rebuilt my HTPC I used an AMD 780G motherboard (GIGABYTE GA-MA78G-DS3H), Athlon X2 4850e, and 2x2GB Crucial Ballistix DDR2 800. Ever since then I've been getting a lot of errors, bluescreens crashes and it's been a real beast to track down the root cause. I think I've pinned it down to the